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Yeah but can anyone show me in the Bible where it says all you have to do is pray and have communion to gain Heaven? Chapter and verse? That sounds like a "works based" salvation to me. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Apostle Paul wrote, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12 And Jesus, Who is the Savior says, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Mark 16:15
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Its not the part you were given, but how you played that part.
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Pastor Missie preached on this recently. She’s the best person to lead us to Heaven.
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Yeah but can anyone show me in the Bible where it says all you have to do is pray and have communion to gain Heaven? Chapter and verse? That sounds like a "works based" salvation to me. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. Apostle Paul wrote, "Work out your salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12 And Jesus, Who is the Savior says, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." Mark 16:15 Isaiah 64:6 (KJV) 6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Romans 3:10 (KJV) 10. As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
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So your saying because he took communion and prayed at a Catholic Church he went to heaven?
Always hard to tell with these things, but if I were a betting man I’d put his chances as better’n Brian Epstein fer example. But then, if you’d a asked me beforehand I woulda said that the odds of a mega-rich superstar like Kobe Bryant taking the time out to raise his daughter a practicing Catholic were rather slight. Most likely at his wife’s urging, which means he probably had to get rolled in too, which speaks even better of him. Had a good friend do that for his own wife, JFC you’d think the Catholics would be GLAD to get a new recruit, but it was an ordeal.
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God makes a lot more disposable people than Sikorsky has made S76s, the loss of such a fine machine will be mourned by some. I trust that S76B-N72EX has gone to that big hangar in the sky.... I guess you don’t believe in Heaven or hell? Does mere subjective belief automatically make it true?
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At school today I learned that Kobe Bryant was an icon to the teenagers of today, far more than I woulda guessed, doesn’t hurt at all that his last public act was to take his daughter to church.
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Always hard to tell with these things, but if I were a betting man I’d put his chances as better’n Brian Epstein fer example.
For charging the Beatles' too high a percentage?
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Some folks died early and their families grieve, then the true believers opine on the lives and beliefs of the departed. No hypocrisy to be found around here.
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Always hard to tell with these things, but if I were a betting man I’d put his chances as better’n Brian Epstein fer example.
For charging the Beatles' too high a percentage? Oh, DARN my Brit upbringing!
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Yeah but can anyone show me in the Bible where it says all you have to do is pray and have communion to gain Heaven? Chapter and verse?
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Some folks died early and their families grieve, then the true believers opine on the lives and beliefs of the departed. No hypocrisy to be found around here.
LMFAO
mike r I’ve never opined on his belief or life....maybe you should take reading comprehension lessons.
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Yeah but can anyone show me in the Bible where it says all you have to do is pray and have communion to gain Heaven? Chapter and verse?
That makes absolutely no sense.
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Some folks died early and their families grieve, then the true believers opine on the lives and beliefs of the departed. No hypocrisy to be found around here.
LMFAO
mike r I’ve never opined on his belief or life....maybe you should take reading comprehension lessons. It is odd that you would think that missive targets yourself, but then again you frequently display as odd. have a nice evening mike r
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And you frequent display as stupid.
Stay drunk.
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Compare and contrast what the scriptures say about John's Baptism (water) vs Baptism with the Holy Spirit.
Every time the Bible speaks of Baptism, it is not necessarily talking about the same thing.
We do well not to confuse the two.
Edit: Didn't know Kobe Bryant from Adam, but glad he seemed to be taking a real interest in raising his Daughter.
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.It appears that the jist of the article is that Kobe is in heaven right now. Its almost certain Kobe and Co. ascended through some low-level cloud like JC, but as far as making it to a heaven? Nobody gets to heaven without clearance from CATC.
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Well it's all a sad thing but I think people are making too much about a former basketball player. After all, thousands of people get killed every day including a lot of Cathoilics. Some are more deserving. Some less.
Whenever one of these small plane crashes happens, either this one flying in fog when other helicopters were gounded or JFK's son taking off in IFR conditions without any IFR experience, attention should be paid to how to prevent the next one.
Besides the seven (anonymous?) other people killed by Bryant's pilot deserve an equal amount of sympathy.
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Yeah but can anyone show me in the Bible where it says all you have to do is pray and have communion to gain Heaven? Chapter and verse? That sounds like a "works based" salvation to me. Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast. There is no such thing as "works based" salvation in the Bible. That is a man-made phrase. Mark 16:16 could not be more clear. James 2 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
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