RockyRaab: Yikes - that is a big one! Hopefully injuries/casualties will be at a minimum. Seems to me a lot of earthquakes have been occurring around the world in the last couple years! I have only been around for 72 years but again it seems to me that they are more prolific of recent? Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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RockyRaab: Yikes - that is a big one! Hopefully injuries/casualties will be at a minimum. Seems to me a lot of earthquakes have been occurring around the world in the last couple years! I have only been around for 72 years but again it seems to me that they are more prolific of recent? Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
It is one of my long-standing theories that the stronger tidal pull that happens during the full and new moons can act as the trigger for a fault that's near the breaking point. There seems to be a definite trend that leads to that idea. This one is yet another point of verification.
RockyRaab: Yikes - that is a big one! Hopefully injuries/casualties will be at a minimum. Seems to me a lot of earthquakes have been occurring around the world in the last couple years! I have only been around for 72 years but again it seems to me that they are more prolific of recent? Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Jaguartx: Yikes on that list! It is rather scary perusing it! I guess I could pose this question (are there more quakes now than there used to be?) to VarmintSon #2 - he is a specialist for the U.S.G.S. and installs seismometers and tsunami detectors from the south end of kalifornicationkopia to the Canadian border and mostly along the west coast in that area. Not much one can do in this regard - but it would be nice to know if the earths crust is cracking at a higher rate these days than in the past. Again I hope the Jamaican people are not heavily harmed - I have been there and it is a beautiful country but frankly I did NOT like many of the people I came across there ,while touring, and never intend to go back (I did especially like Ocho Rios and our trip down that river and playing in the falls!). Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
It is one of my long-standing theories that the stronger tidal pull that happens during the full and new moons can act as the trigger for a fault that's near the breaking point. There seems to be a definite trend that leads to that idea. This one is yet another point of verification.
Rocky,
do you know did it occur during high tide there or low tide?
Less, or even more, water over the area might be a contributing factor? Awful lot of weight in cubic hectares of H2O.
Geno
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Jaguartx: I will. Also, I despise kalifornicationkopia and kalifornicationkopians to the extreme but I do not wish to see them all drown't in the Pacific - the United States of America would more than likely be better off should that happen but to much human carnage would be involved.. But I take it you are being humorous. I'll get back to you on the frequency thing. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
In the 18th century Port au Prince Haiti was virtually destroyed by an estimated 8.0 earthquake!
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In the 18th century Port au Prince Haiti was virtually destroyed by an estimated 8.0 earthquake!
There you go with that history stuff again.
PM on the way to you.
Geno
PS, you're over your limit, and I think I know why. I'll catch up with you at a later date.
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
In the 18th century Port au Prince Haiti was virtually destroyed by an estimated 8.0 earthquake!
There you go with that history stuff again.
PM on the way to you.
Geno
PS, you're over your limit, and I think I know why. I'll catch up with you at a later date.
Hmm? I’ll check on that PM stuff.
As for Haiti. Archaeololically speaking there was some awesome stuff recovered there. I was acquainted with one archaeologists. 7.7 is a biggie!!!
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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
FWIW, the Richter scale of magnitude is no longer used.
Richter only goes to 10. Seismologists believe a quake of greater than 10 magnitude is possible.
Moment magnitude is similar.
Thanks IB.
After studying a bit I can see where the Moment of Magnitude scale more accurately measures the quakes energy. The scales are similar but different. The MofM scale would more accurately measure Big Ones.
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The tidal effect I refer to is not the movement of water, but movement of the earth's crust. The gravitational pull of the sun and moon (combined at the full and new moons) is strong enough to lift trillions of tons of water, and we know it has an equal pull on the earth's crust. The crust bulges in a wave-like pattern as the globe turns under the aligned sun and moon. How much movement is needed to trigger a 'quake if the fault is already cocked to go? Nor does it have to happen at the moment of full tide. That moment may trigger a very small change, but that change ripples and grows until the fault snaps a day or two (and several more almost equal tides) later.
When I heard about this I got my baggies on and my surfboard ready. So far my feet are still dry.
In all seriousness, the chance of having any sizable wave action here in Southeast FL is pretty much non-existant. We are blocked from seismic waves from that area by both Cuba and the Continental shelf. Off to our east are the Cay Sal and Bahama Banks, so we are blocked from wrap around waves there too, which is why the surfing here sucks until you get a lot farther up coast.
Hopefully the folks on the Jamaica coast didn’t have any significant damage either.
The tidal effect I refer to is not the movement of water, but movement of the earth's crust. The gravitational pull of the sun and moon (combined at the full and new moons) is strong enough to lift trillions of tons of water, and we know it has an equal pull on the earth's crust. The crust bulges in a wave-like pattern as the globe turns under the aligned sun and moon. How much movement is needed to trigger a 'quake if the fault is already cocked to go? Nor does it have to happen at the moment of full tide. That moment may trigger a very small change, but that change ripples and grows until the fault snaps a day or two (and several more almost equal tides) later.
Interesting points Rocky,
combination of water being moved off the fault, the earth itself being pulled around, and the stressors already in place.
Science is cool.
Geno
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
Yes it is, Beav. Faults that break with horizontal movement don't generate tsunamis. Those that shift vertically, with either a rise or drop of the sea floor, do. So can underwater landslides with or without a 'quake.
Yes it is, Beav. Faults that break with horizontal movement don't generate tsunamis. Those that shift vertically, with either a rise or drop of the sea floor, do. So can underwater landslides with or without a 'quake.
Cascadia Fault Line...When this subsections decides to heavho...Shît gonna get real sporty for those of us on the coast...😎
I used to have a place north of Tillamook, they said we had about 5 minutes to get up high when that one goes. Now I live just North of a super volcano .. so there is that
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Cascadia Fault Line...When this subsections decides to heavho...Shît gonna get real sporty for those of us on the coast...😎
I used to have a place north of Tillamook, they said we had about 5 minutes to get up high when that one goes. Now I live just North of a super volcano .. so there is that
RockyRaab and I discussed this at length on an earlier thread...We both suggested getting the finest bottle of liquor made.
Drinking half now, putting the rest away for the big moment...Something about going out with an excellent glass of high dollar scotch in your hand has an appeal.
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FWIW, the Richter scale of magnitude is no longer used.
Richter only goes to 10. Seismologists believe a quake of greater than 10 magnitude is possible.
Moment magnitude is similar.
Thanks IB.
After studying a bit I can see where the Moment of Magnitude scale more accurately measures the quakes energy. The scales are similar but different. The MofM scale would more accurately measure Big Ones.
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Cascadia Fault Line...When this subsections decides to heavho...Shît gonna get real sporty for those of us on the coast...😎
I used to have a place north of Tillamook, they said we had about 5 minutes to get up high when that one goes. Now I live just North of a super volcano .. so there is that
RockyRaab and I discussed this at length on an earlier thread...We both suggested getting the finest bottle of liquor made.
Drinking half now, putting the rest away for the big moment...Something about going out with an excellent glass of high dollar scotch in your hand has an appeal.
😎
Only one flaw in that scenario. The assumption that half the bottle would be left when the big one cuts loose....
Jaguartx: I will. Also, I despise kalifornicationkopia and kalifornicationkopians to the extreme but I do not wish to see them all drown't in the Pacific - the United States of America would more than likely be better off should that happen but to much human carnage would be involved.. But I take it you are being humorous. I'll get back to you on the frequency thing. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
I'm not saying I want that, but with the evidence of the frequency of EQs happening I worry, and I wonder if a 5 or 6 or 7 would instigate calamity.
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Yes it is, Beav. Faults that break with horizontal movement don't generate tsunamis. Those that shift vertically, with either a rise or drop of the sea floor, do. So can underwater landslides with or without a 'quake.
Yes, search Lituya Bay 1958 for a big one!
I fished out of Lituya in 1980 which was the "understood" period of the release. Nothing happened and has not happened since.
But the waves flushed the mountainside clear and showed clearly 22 years later. Impressive is an understatement.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
Yes it is, Beav. Faults that break with horizontal movement don't generate tsunamis. Those that shift vertically, with either a rise or drop of the sea floor, do. So can underwater landslides with or without a 'quake.
Yes, search Lituya Bay 1958 for a big one!
The 1958 Lituya Bay earthquake occurred at July 9 at 22:15:58 with a moment magnitude of 7.8 and a maximum Mercalli intensity of XI (Extreme). The strike-slip earthquake took place on the Fairweather Fault and triggered a rockslide of 40 million cubic yards (30 million cubic meters and about 90 million tons) into the narrow inlet of Lituya Bay, Alaska. The impact was heard 50 miles (80 km) away,[6] and the sudden displacement of water resulted in a megatsunami that washed out trees to a maximum elevation of 1,720 feet (524 meters) at the entrance of Gilbert Inlet.[7] This is the largest and most significant megatsunami in modern times; it forced a re-evaluation of large-wave events and the recognition of impact events, rockfalls, and landslides as causes of very large waves.
A 2010 model examined the amount of infill on the floor of the bay, which was many times larger than that of the rockfall alone, and also the energy and height of the waves. Scientists concluded that there had been a "dual slide" involving a rockfall which also triggered a release of 5 to 10 times its volume of sediment trapped by the adjacent Lituya Glacier, a ratio comparable with other events where this "dual slide" effect is known to have happened. Lituya Bay has a history of megatsunami events, but the 1958 event was the first for which sufficient data was captured at the time.[8][9]
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The Caribbean is a sh1th0le of old slave stops, salt mines and pirate hides. A good size meteor right in the middle would be nice clean it out up to Hialeah down to Bonaire.
Yes it is, Beav. Faults that break with horizontal movement don't generate tsunamis. Those that shift vertically, with either a rise or drop of the sea floor, do. So can underwater landslides with or without a 'quake.
Yes, search Lituya Bay 1958 for a big one!
The 1958 Lituya Bay earthquake occurred at July 9 at 22:15:58 with a moment magnitude of 7.8 and a maximum Mercalli intensity of XI (Extreme). The strike-slip earthquake took place on the Fairweather Fault and triggered a rockslide of 40 million cubic yards (30 million cubic meters and about 90 million tons) into the narrow inlet of Lituya Bay, Alaska. The impact was heard 50 miles (80 km) away,[6] and the sudden displacement of water resulted in a megatsunami that washed out trees to a maximum elevation of 1,720 feet (524 meters) at the entrance of Gilbert Inlet.[7] This is the largest and most significant megatsunami in modern times; it forced a re-evaluation of large-wave events and the recognition of impact events, rockfalls, and landslides as causes of very large waves.
A 2010 model examined the amount of infill on the floor of the bay, which was many times larger than that of the rockfall alone, and also the energy and height of the waves. Scientists concluded that there had been a "dual slide" involving a rockfall which also triggered a release of 5 to 10 times its volume of sediment trapped by the adjacent Lituya Glacier, a ratio comparable with other events where this "dual slide" effect is known to have happened. Lituya Bay has a history of megatsunami events, but the 1958 event was the first for which sufficient data was captured at the time.[8][9]
The lapmarks from that and prior tsunamis showed clearly in 2010 when I last drove a boat by it. It is impressive.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
