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.22 Plinkster on youtube claims that his new Glock .22 is unreliable with all of the 36gr ammo he tried running in it. All other weights cycled properly but he got one, two light rim strikes per magazine with multiple major brands of 36gr ammo. Just watched that yesterday. He didn't keep the one he tested; too many issues, not all about function, but rather the value received once the cost of a threaded barrel was factored in, plus the fact that he couldn't get it shooting to POA. His take seemed to be that it's a good choice for someone who wants a well-matched Glock 19 trainer. If I were a Glocker, I'd be looking at conversion units if I wanted a good shooting .22. I saw Plinksters 22's vid too. Aside from the demonstrated failures with 36gr ammo, his comments and demonstration of the magazine feed angle issues was not good either. I was kinda horned-up for one of these Glock 44's. I've cooled my enthusiasm at least for now.
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My wife's M&P 22 compact has a decent trigger, they are hammer fired and the first thing I noticed is almost no dud 22 shells, it eats everything I can remember trying. It's just not a trainer for my full sized M&P's but I like it on it's own design. I shot probably 2-3000 rounds through it and then gave it back to her but I shot it again Sunday and it's still a good shooter.
I still want a G44...
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Early on the TX22 had a run of bad barrels. Trigger on the TX22 is very good. Ditto on both and it would seem they still haven't conquered the barrel problem. I like mine overall, the grip feels good, it feels like a full sized M&P wearing a small size backstrap and the trigger has a short let off. Accuracy is decent, nothing to write home about but for a plinker/practice pistol it does fine. But even though mine is a recently made pistol the barrel will still lead up after a couple hundred rounds. I had it out a couple weeks ago and somewhere before two hundred rounds the accuracy definitely started falling off. Took it apart at home and the barrel had some moderately severe leading starting about halfway down. Didn't take much work with a brush to get it out but that's still not something that has happened with most any other .22 pistol I've ever owned. Again, that said, I like it for what it is.
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The trigger on my M&P Compact is pretty fair, not good, but better than my M&P 9mm by a long margin. All in all, it's a pretty good little gun, but the bore is a bit rough, it WILL lead up after a couple hundred rounds. I will say that I've never had a malfunction with it in the three years I've owned it (I can say the same about my SR-22 .4.5"), no issues, with any ammo I've tried in them, mostly HV stuff, like I shoot in most everything else
. I haven't tried many SV offerings, though. I will make it a point to try some subsonic ammo in them when the weather gets warmer. I might even hand-cycle some Quiets, if I get the notion.
SInce I've got those two pistols, I won't be buying a Glock, or the Taurus, for that matter (though the Taurus has an excellent feel to it, and the triggers seem excellent). I think I've got the light .22s covered.
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Early on the TX22 had a run of bad barrels. Trigger on the TX22 is very good. Ditto on both and it would seem they still haven't conquered the barrel problem. I like mine overall, the grip feels good, it feels like a full sized M&P wearing a small size backstrap and the trigger has a short let off. Accuracy is decent, nothing to write home about but for a plinker/practice pistol it does fine. But even though mine is a recently made pistol the barrel will still lead up after a couple hundred rounds. I had it out a couple weeks ago and somewhere before two hundred rounds the accuracy definitely started falling off. Took it apart at home and the barrel had some moderately severe leading starting about halfway down. Didn't take much work with a brush to get it out but that's still not something that has happened with most any other .22 pistol I've ever owned. Again, that said, I like it for what it is. I inspected the barrel in my TX22 before purchase (2 weeks ago) and it looked very good. After 300ish rounds the barrel looks like the day I made the purchase. Suppose it can still turn to crap after a few hundred more. The sights are OK but leave a bit to be desired. Have an extra Burris FFIII laying around so ordered a plate to give it a go. Nice that the barrel comes threaded and with the suppressor adapter included. Have one mag extension from Galloway which now converters a 16rd into a 20rd. Seems to eat a variety of ammo with no hiccups. Not much to not like.
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I checked mine with a borescope and don't see anything really nasty in there but obviously something's going on. I might give it a few dozen strokes with JB paste to see if that helps and if not might call Taurus support to see if they would send me a new barrel.
What mounting plate did you order for your Burris and where did you order it? I don't see an adapter specifically for the TX22 listed on the Burris website. The "adjustable" sights are pretty minimal, I had moved mine hard left and they popped back to center overnight.
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Do the hybrid poly slides break on those, too? Naw….they aint gots one of those. It just goes bang, bang, bang when I pulls da trigger....LOL Handy little sidearms they are. The gentlemen I bought it from many years ago, was dying of cancer and he knew it. He wanted someone to have it that would appreciate it. He "Sold" it to me for $100 with a Heiser shoulder holster and a little leather pouch with a mix/match of ammunition. He said he purchased it brand new from the Sporting Goods store he was working in at the time....told me it had accounted for countless Coons, Opossums, Grouse, Porkies and more than a few Deer when the chance arose! If that gun could talk, I'm sure it would have stories to tell!
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Whatever you do, don't post a pic. The grockers will keel over from the sheer beauty of John Moses' design. They're too used to looking at black plastic to handle the sight of one....
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On second thought, post a pic of the Heiser. It'll drive the web gear bastids bonkers....
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On second thought, post a pic of the Heiser. It'll drive the web gear bastids bonkers.... Alas, but I wish I could. The Ex-wife tossed it in the garbage during our separation prior to divorce...….nuff said, right?
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I did a quick search and from what I'm reading both models are hammer fired, not striker fired, so the feel of the trigger is going to be different from the center fire striker fired models. What's awful about it? Is it supposed to be a crisp single action type trigger and they blew the "crisp" part or did they try to mimic the staple gun feel of the center fire? Stiff, dragging, and heavy for the most part... had a bunch of new shooters trying a bunch of rf pistols and it was last choice of the bunch. They ranged from S&W 41 to Ruger LCP... mostly mid-range stuff. No one shot the M&P twice and several pistols stayed hot continuously for the duration.
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I did a quick search and from what I'm reading both models are hammer fired, not striker fired, so the feel of the trigger is going to be different from the center fire striker fired models. What's awful about it? Is it supposed to be a crisp single action type trigger and they blew the "crisp" part or did they try to mimic the staple gun feel of the center fire? Stiff, dragging, and heavy for the most part... had a bunch of new shooters trying a bunch of rf pistols and it was last choice of the bunch. They ranged from S&W 41 to Ruger LCP... mostly mid-range stuff. No one shot the M&P twice and several pistols stayed hot continuously for the duration. This thread, which started out about the G44, has bounced around among various .22 pistols, and I'm too lazy to dissect the discussion points. Sitka Deer, which pistol are you referring to as stiff, dragging, and heavy? Paul
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Hate to be a stick in the mud, but I'm not a Glock guy. If I decide I need a polymer 22, my choices will be M&P compact, Ruger SR, or even the Ruger LCR II 22LR. I think any of them will serve the same purpose, and be less expensive.
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I did a quick search and from what I'm reading both models are hammer fired, not striker fired, so the feel of the trigger is going to be different from the center fire striker fired models. What's awful about it? Is it supposed to be a crisp single action type trigger and they blew the "crisp" part or did they try to mimic the staple gun feel of the center fire? Stiff, dragging, and heavy for the most part... had a bunch of new shooters trying a bunch of rf pistols and it was last choice of the bunch. They ranged from S&W 41 to Ruger LCP... mostly mid-range stuff. No one shot the M&P twice and several pistols stayed hot continuously for the duration. This thread, which started out about the G44, has bounced around among various .22 pistols, and I'm too lazy to dissect the discussion points. Sitka Deer, which pistol are you referring to as stiff, dragging, and heavy? Paul The M&P.
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Hate to be a stick in the mud, but I'm not a Glock guy. If I decide I need a polymer 22, my choices will be M&P compact, Ruger SR, or even the Ruger LCR II 22LR. I think any of them will serve the same purpose, and be less expensive. The Taurus TX22 has been an unexpected surprise (in a good way).
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Ran over 500 rounds of CCI Blazer through the G44 this past weekend. First mag had a double feed on the first round, but it didn't look like it was seated properly (I didn't load that mag), The rest ran fine, no malfunctions. Was suppressed and a lot of fun to shoot. Needs a better trigger and sights, it's very light and a bit harder to shoot.
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JB in SC: Thanks for your input.
Maybe I'll get back on the "band-wagon"?
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