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Fast forward to 17:30

Results speak for themselves:


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Love my new Ruger 57.And the point is what?Apples to oranges ?? Why does the vid state(REVIEW) ruger 57 verses the fn but goes into 357 mag.Head scratcher?? Click bait I guess.

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Yep, 357/125 is impressive.

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Originally Posted by viking
Yep, 357/125 is impressive.



Indeed.

Those Remington semi JHP are impressive even in the 158 grain

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Suprised the 686-6 Smith made it thru it's shots without locking up due to it's "Hillary Hole". wink


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Originally Posted by coobie
Love my new Ruger 57.And the point is what?Apples to oranges ?? Why does the vid state(REVIEW) ruger 57 verses the fn but goes into 357 mag.Head scratcher?? Click bait I guess.


The video is a comparison between the Ruger and FN 5.7's. Harrell's shot various 5.7 ammo's vs. his meat targets in the past and didn't see the value in repeating them so he did something else to give a different perspective on the 5.7's vs. more conventional rounds.

I though it was an interesting comparison.


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No need to compare; they all do pretty much the same thing. Hear it continuously here at the handgun forum.

I did notice at 7 yards he managed to hit the meat target with both 5.7 and .357.

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by coobie
Love my new Ruger 57.And the point is what?Apples to oranges ?? Why does the vid state(REVIEW) ruger 57 verses the fn but goes into 357 mag.Head scratcher?? Click bait I guess.


The video is a comparison between the Ruger and FN 5.7's. Harrell's shot various 5.7 ammo's vs. his meat targets in the past and didn't see the value in repeating them so he did something else to give a different perspective on the 5.7's vs. more conventional rounds.

I though it was an interesting comparison.


Definately informative



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Let me think. A $600 dollar gun, that shoots 20 rounds of a 39 grain bullet that causes inconsequential damage to its target when a great 6 shot 1950’s technology is available!


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Is it just me, but does anyone else wonder why he shoots the target several times. Sure the target is going to be messed up alter taking multiple hits. I would think one round would suffice.

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I figure he want's to see a few bullet results, so as to not get a fluke reading.

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My one shot groups are always a LOT tighter than my three shot groups so for accuracy testing I prefer to stick with one shot.



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Excellent overview of various pistol trigger systems.



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A couple of footnotes here. First, I've had my FN 5.7 for several years now. I've never had had the sights fail to hold zero. That includes carrying a fair amount in the field, carrying concealed, etc. That also includes changing zero several times for different loads.
The ammo used is the so called "hunting load." It uses a 40 gr. Hdy V-Max bullet at 1740 fps. It expands very rapidly upon impact, and causes a lot of damage. Does everybody remember the Ft. Hood shooting ? The shooter used that ammo. Three of the solders killed tried to charge the shooter. None of them made it.
I'd also add that the service ammo and the so called practice ammo use a non expanding 27 gr. bullet at 2140 odd feet per second. After passing through the barriers it's designed to penetrate, it tumbles. It, BTW, shoots several inches high over the 40 gr. V-Max load. It also blows apart my 2.5 gallon water containers just as well as the 40 gr. loads. Neither load will exit after 12 inches of penetration. E

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Every mid bore handgun cartridge made has been trying to best the good old .357

I've been through 9mm and .45's But the firearm that lives on my bedside table is a plain Jane 1976 Ruger Police Service Six loaded with factory packed Hornady XTPs.

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What a surprise. A varmint load performed like...a varmint round.

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...or as my dad used to say "you can't get something for nothing" back when I was younger the 222 was considered a POS for deer, cause all they used were varmint bullets. It relevant as I kill deer with a 223 and tsx or other bonded bullets. I guess best leave the 5.7 x 28 to the SS where they can use special bullets.


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I would still consider the 5.7 a viable defense cartridge in a high capacity pistol. The actual tissue disruption in ballistics gel shows something very similar to a 9mm FMJ, which isn't great, but it's not exactly "bad" either. Especially when you consider it has very little recoil and a lot more shots in the magazine. So while one round doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence, you could put a good 2-3 more inside of a second, and that does add up. So it's viable as a defensive round...I'm just not interested personally.

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A couple of things. I've owned three 9mm pistols. Trust me, the 5.7 with "special ammo" Blows up my 2.5 gallon jugs of water far better than the standard full metal jacketed 9 mm ammo. Hollow point 9mm ammo is a much different story.
Second, the so called practice ammo and even the "red box" service ammo is available to the general public from time to time. Sometimes it's very expensive, but not always. But, like I said, the 27 gr. practice ammo works just the same.
I like mine. It's very light and easy to carry all day. It's internal parts are coated for rust protection. But, most important, I can shoot it much better than any other light handgun I've ever tried. E

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I am only interested in it from a PDW standpoint. Longer barrel more velocity maybe? Then you need a pistol to match. It's just a huge step in a direction I am not totally sold on.


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