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Interesting. Thanks for that info.

One suggestion as to why only a limited LVR push by Hodgdon, it may be a joint venture with Hornady, as both names are on the bottle. It was suggested that there may be less incentive to push a powder when you have to split the proceeds. Not sure about that, but it does raise some questions.

Maybe it's just that good in the 30-30, not as good in other rounds.

Your results with larger volume cases sorta answers my question about trying it in the 338-06, which will save me time and powder. The Fire saves me money, but costs me even more... blush

Think I'll stick with H-380 and may push it a bit, as pressures at max are still pretty low compared to other powders. I'm sure gunner and Seafire would agree with that, as they're pushed it beyond the listed max in the 338-06 with good results.

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Actually, Dirtfarmer, I'd like to see your results trying LVR if you already have it on the shelf, just to (in)validate my anecdotal results..I could just kick myself for not accurately recording my observations. But it did seem to me that increased airspace had something to do with the big velocity swings. Another thing occurs to me, the '06, 9.3 and 8mm-06 use boat tails. Could this be a factor?...so many questions, so many variables, so much ignorance. Sometimes I think knitting would be a good hobby.

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Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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I have a can, may try a few rounds just out of curiosity, but think H-380 is going to be my go to powder for 180-225 gr. bullets. Not using 250's due to length and loss of powder room; they're pretty slow compared to the .338 WM.

The 160 TTSX works very well with Varget, probably stay with it for that one.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Only in 35 Remington DF, it will easily power a 220gr Speer to 2175 fps in a 336 Marlin 20 inch barrel.


Hmmm, the 35 Rem is another one I haven't tried Lever in. I've been focused on some other rounds that are newer to me, but I need to get back to the old 35 Rem and try that. It makes a lot of sense in a lot of cartridges; in my experience if powders like TAC are the top velocity performers for a cartridge, then Lever should work well too.

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It'll dang sure make the old 35 Remington a stoner Yondering, I still cant believe how hard that 220gr Speer hit that White Oak AFTER it went through both shoulders on the bedded white tail buck 156 yards away, I should go back and dig that bullet out someday.


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Due to the shortages, can't find preferred 2000 mr powder. I don't like rl 17 in carbine barrels. So comparing leverevolution against reloader 15 in a 20 in barreled 338 rcm.

Leverevolution is right beside 2000 mr on the burn rate.

I'll say it's quite dense. Its so fine it binds up my powder hopper.

I was able to fit 66 grains under a 225 grain fusion with no compression, which is a full case. I started at 53 grains. I'll run these over chronograph soon and report back soon......





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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Due to the shortages, can't find preferred 2000 mr powder. I don't like rl 17 in carbine barrels. So comparing leverevolution against reloader 15 in a 20 in barreled 338 rcm.

Leverevolution is right beside 2000 mr on the burn rate.

I'll say it's quite dense. Its so fine it binds up my powder hopper.

I was able to fit 66 grains under a 225 grain fusion with no compression, which is a full case. I started at 53 grains. I'll run these over chronograph soon and report back soon......






I know you don’t mess with the 223/5.56 because it’s the devil but leverevolution works very well in it as well.. There was a rumor that leverevolution was the same as cfe223 but hodgon said wasn’t true. If you need more let me know all our 3 bears have it and pretty cheap compared to other powders.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Ran the 225 grain fusion LVR 338 rcm rounds in the ruger rifle. Chronograph wouldnt work at 3 degree winter temp. Battery must be giving low voltage.

Anyhow, ran up fron 53 grains. Very erratic results: shiny marks on case heads where the ejector slot is cut out of the bolt face starting at 55 grains. Then, no marks and nice looking primers at one grain more powder. Then, the ejector marks would come back. As I progressed to 61 grains, ejector marks went away, and primers looked great.

All brass cases extracted easily. I didnt go past 61 grains. This LVR is some erratic stuff. I won't use anymore of it.

Back to good ole reloader 15.

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Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak
Ran the 225 grain fusion LVR 338 rcm rounds in the ruger rifle. Chronograph wouldnt work at 3 degree winter temp. Battery must be giving low voltage.

Anyhow, ran up fron 53 grains. Very erratic results: shiny marks on case heads where the ejector slot is cut out of the bolt face starting at 55 grains. Then, no marks and nice looking primers at one grain more powder. Then, the ejector marks would come back. As I progressed to 61 grains, ejector marks went away, and primers looked great.

All brass cases extracted easily. I didnt go past 61 grains. This LVR is some erratic stuff. I won't use anymore of it.

Back to good ole reloader 15.



If RL15 works good I bet you a bag of pancake mix Biggame powder will work great in it.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Just me- I never had any luck with Lever
powder in the guns I bought it to use in.
I couldn't get any decent accuracy out of
anything I tried. Might have bought some
more velocity, I don't know- didn't check.
If the accuracy isn't there, more speed and
noise won't do me any good

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I use it to run 6.5 Grendel @ 2700fps with 31.3 grains of powder under 123 gr Nosler CC's. This is out of a 24" CZ 527. In the future I want to use it with SST's and Gold Dots for a hunting load.

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