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There are calibres which could well die without me being affected in the slightest. Quite a number of them really. However I'd actually be reluctant to push for any to be dropped because no doubt there'd be someone, somewhere, who'd be adversely affected. I have been affected by calibres becoming "no longer commercially available" myself, and it can be quite a PITA to chase brass (or modify it) and sometimes bullets for these orphans.

Of course it is in the interests of the big makers to keep coming out with new calibres and at the same time to render obsolete the less popular ones. That way they can expect that you'll just have to keep buying new guns, dies etc. I am glad that there are specialists who make some of the less-common stuff, to keep the older and perhaps more obscure guns going. .

you're more right than wrong on that one....

See WHAT you did Gibby ! !




Actually I ought to THANK you. I had not 'seriously' looked for one but I found this LIKE NEW 40 S W with box, owners manual, Xtra mag for a Real Good Price --- MONDAY. Happy Face

Jerry

I catch a lot of grief over my belief that the 30-30 is not the deer-killing cartridge so many claim it to be. Decent with a 150 grain bullet but the 170 grain bullets have a nasty habit of not opening up. Every deer season I find one in the woods that was shot during a drive by one of the locals. They don't see it fall so they assume another one missed. The Model 94 or Marlin 336 is the only thing keeping the 30-30 around today.
Someone will come on here and tell me how they dropped a deer in its tracks at 200 yards with a 30-30. But I believe it to be the exception and not the rule.

I still hunt with my Sharps 50-70 carbine. It does not drop deer in their tracks, but I know that they will run a few yards before falling over. So I don't hunt with it when there is a lot of pressure in the woods that would cause the deer to run farther. Calm, undisturbed deer are a lot easier to kill.

People leave deer in the woods that have been shot with every cartridge known to man. Most of the deer I've shot in my day fell to a .30-30 Model 94 Trapper. My go to load used 170 gr Hornady RN. None were left in the woods. The cartridge isn't responsible for poor shooting skills.

I get tired of listening to all the butt hurt Swede owning creedmoor bashers. I have several times thought about a Swede, but the creed made a lot more sense to me, as I did not own anything in 6.5 yet. Most rifles chambered in creed are twisted properly to shoot the high BC bullets, not so with the Swede. The creed fits nicely in a short action, not so with the Swede. You can find a creed chambered in almost any bolt action rifle configuration, and also in the AR10 platform. Swede, not. There are several dozen configurations of inexpensive factory ammo available almost anywhere ammo is for sale, the swede? nope. As Mule Deer has pointed out on numerous occasions, the chamber dimensions on Swede rifles is all over the place, so it is difficult for safe factory ammo to be manufactured to fit all Swede chambers. True, a properly twisted Swede will equal or possibly slightly exceed the velocity of the creed, but the difference will likely only be detectable with a chronograph. If I had already owned a Swede I probably would not have built the creed I own right now. I like the creed alot, is it the best thing to come down the pike since Oroville Redenbacher microwave popcorn? Probably not. But to someone who doesn't handload, or is buying their kid a first rifle, it in my opinion makes whole lot more sense than a Swede. Well there you have it, a few things the 6.5 creedmoor does that the 6.5x55 has not done for a century.

In the end, it always boils down to, "What I have is better than what you have".

No cartridge deserves to or should become obsolete if anyone wants to shoot it. To each their own.

And/or it’s a matter jealousy. “Yours” CANT be better than mine !

I like what I like. It doesn’t matter what anyone/everyone else likes.
I even like & use the 270 Win

As Yogi used to say, “ it’s better than the average... “


Jerry

ps: there is more than 1 rifle I will NOT own.

There is more than 1 cartridge I will not be caught using, period.

Everyone has the same PRIVILEGE ! !

Jerry