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270 Win... a caliber unknown to the rest of the non-American world.
22 and 30 cal’s were available elsewhere in the world, not so the .277” Yeah right. I watch Wild Boar Fever on the Outdoor Channel. Its European hunters and all the hunting is done in Europe and several of them use .270's. The point isn't that the 270 isn't a world-wide cartridge (it is), but at the time of its unveiling in 1925 it was unknown. I would have thought that would be self evident, but I guess after being on the campfire almost 20 years I should know everything needs to be spelled out c.a.r.e.f.u.l.l.y.
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Mike -- I 'think' Brad was talking about the 277 bore BEING unknown WHEN produced. ? ?
Indeed.
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270 Win... a caliber unknown to the rest of the non-American world.
22 and 30 cal’s were available elsewhere in the world, not so the .277” Yeah right. I watch Wild Boar Fever on the Outdoor Channel. Its European hunters and all the hunting is done in Europe and several of them use .270's. The point isn't that the 270 isn't a world-wide cartridge (it is), but at the time of its unveiling in 1925 it was unknown. I would have thought that would be self evident, but I guess after being on the campfire almost 20 years I should know everything needs to be spelled out c.a.r.e.f.u.l.l.y. My bad.
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"spritzer" - NO > spitzer. Don't tell Gnoahh .. American Absolutely. Good grief...it only took me two days to catch my typo....lol! You are correct, spitzer. And, it remains true the Germans were a generation ahead of the US in cartridge development until after WWI and well into the 20's. Cartridges the US was thinking newe well into the 1950's had been developed in Germany before the turn of the century. Like it or not, it's true. The same holds true of optics. DURING WWI the US went around the barn through Sweden trying to buy German rifle scopes....then thought better of trading with a country you have sanctions against. The medium of exchange was to be food.
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You wouldn’t believe how often I find something in a post that I LEFT out or didn’t say LIKE I was thinking !! Sometimes my fingers don’t type what I told them to type. That’s really true. Jerry
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You wouldn’t believe how often I find something in a post that I LEFT out or didn’t say LIKE I was thinking !! Sometimes my fingers don’t type what I told them to type. That’s really true. Jerry Yes....and ordinarily I proof read my posts...and STILL miss typo's or get thoughts and letters bakcwrads…..lol!
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Rifle: 45-70 and/or 30-30
Handgun: 45Colt and/or 45ACP (Get a dual cylinder Single Action revolver and be extra extra American!)
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When I think of "most American" I think 30-30.
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Thanks Guys for your participation and contributions.
As I said in the OP, we are blessed to have MANY 'American' cartridges. Of all that have been mentioned TWO had not come to my mind. And Great American Cartridges they are.
45 Colt and 44-40.
We've had a lot of participation in a short couple of days & 9 pages.
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30/30 Winchester. Most American cartridge used for the most American game, deer! Not the sexiest, most powerful, most handloaded, most sought after, or often chambered in bolt action rifles, but the most American round. I’ve had two Ruger No.1 rifles in 30/30 (still have one), and have a Browning 1885 in 30/30. I had two Remington 788’s in 30/30, maybe 3 or 5 Handi Rifles in 30/30, and maybe a half dozen pre safety Marlin and Winchester lever guns in 30/30. The 30/30 is a fine round for what it is, despite the few things it ‘won’t’ do!
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Hands down it is the 30-06. Our great American military used it to defeat evil around the world and then came home to hunt every critter in North America with it. If fed it the right bullet and load it handedly kills deer and every thing else in between including the big bears of Alaska.
It's case spawned many other cartridges, from the 25-06 Remington, .270 Win., 280 Rem., .338-06, .35 Whelen up to the .400 Whelen and their improved versions. It is and will always be a good choice for any riflemen and the super bullets we now have made it even better.
If I ever have only one centerfire big game rifle it will be chambered for the great 30-06!
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Maybe the 45 Colt. 30-06, 308, 223, 50 BMG.....
Maybe they are American, but they are common everywhere. The most American Cartridge needs to be popular, but only in America.
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Rifle I'd say .308, pistol I'd say 45 LC
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Maybe the 45 Colt. 30-06, 308, 223, 50 BMG.....
Maybe they are American, but they are common everywhere. The most American Cartridge needs to be popular, but only in America. Don’t change the GIST of the thread. NO one said ONLY in USA. The Mausers are known ..... The mmmS are known...... Most American Cartridge does NOT matter WHERE it’s used. Jerry. < O P.
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Hands down it is the 30-06. Our great American military used it to defeat evil around the world and then came home to hunt every critter in North America with it. If fed it the right bullet and load it handedly kills deer and every thing else in between including the big bears of Alaska.
It's case spawned many other cartridges, from the 25-06 Remington, .270 Win., 280 Rem., .338-06, .35 Whelen up to the .400 Whelen and their improved versions. It is and will always be a good choice for any riflemen and the super bullets we now have made it even better.
If I ever have only one centerfire big game rifle it will be chambered for the great 30-06! And yet, it remains the offspring of the equally great and equally as historic 8 X 57 as is any cartridge derived from the '06.
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"spritzer" - NO > spitzer. Don't tell Gnoahh .. American Absolutely. Good grief...it only took me two days to catch my typo....lol! You are correct, spitzer. ... Wee gnu u ment butt mebe u shud lye offa da spritzers?
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.22LR .223/5.56 .30-30 .308 Win .30-06 .357 Mag .44 Mag .45ACP .45 Colt .45-70 .50BMG
That would be my current list of "most American" cartridges.
In previous eras the list would have been quite different as many of these didn't exist.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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And yet, it remains the offspring of the equally great and equally as historic 8 X 57 as is any cartridge derived from the '06.
We heard you the first time. Beside the 8X57 AIN'T American ! ! Remember I done tole ya that I'm PREJUDICED ! Jerry
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.22LR .223/5.56 .30-30 .308 Win .30-06 .357 Mag .44 Mag .45ACP .45-70 .50BMG
That would be my current list of "most American" cartridges.
In previous eras the list would have been quite different as many of these didn't exist.
Hey C H ! No 270 Win...... NO 7mm RM.... NO 458 Win ? Huh what's up with that ? <smile> Jerry
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I don't see how the 30-06 can be the "most" American round... the caliber was universal at the time, the only difference was the case.
I'm sticking with my case (pun intended) for the 270... it takes "The" American 30-06 case further, giving it a truly American caliber.
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