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I picked this up on the radio the other day. It gave me some pause for reflection:
A member of the British royal family was leaving church after services one Sunday. He stopped for a moment to speak to the minister.
He asked, " Reverend, is there a place called Hell?"
The Reverend answers, " Certainly, Jesus speaks strongly on that. It is part of our church doctrine."
The member of the Royal Family then asked, " Then why don't you ever speak of it?"

Think about that. When was the last time you heard a sermon on Hell? Not a small mention, but a sermon. Certainly there is plenty in the Bible a sermon just on Hell could be based.

Think of this, if we say Jesus has defeated the grave: You receive eternal life; you go to heaven, what do you mean. What do you mean by death? Certainly every Christian who has ever walked the earth, or ever will, is going to die. Save a small fraction alive upon Christ's return. Jesus does not prevent that. So what do you mean? What is "Spiritual death"?

So what is this death you are spared from? If you did suffer that death what would it entail? When we do rarely mention God's wrath, what is that? Isn't he a God of love and blessings?

Maybe it's because we don't want to hear it. We wish to put a lid on that box and never speak of it. Maybe we are so focused on Him being a God of love that we forget, or deny, that he is also a God of justice and wrath. And that the justice and wrath are as much a part of him as the love.

Just a few thoughts.

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Hell............is flat beer and flat women.

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Hell............is flat beer and flat women.


No womenses.!


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Study the words that are translated "hell" in our Bible
then look at the other words they are translated to.


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I was taught "The wages of sin is death." Hell only exists for the duration of "The Final Battle". After which all sinners cease to exist, and Heaven reigns on Earth.

Many Christians believe there is no "eternal pit of suffering and pain".


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
I picked this up on the radio the other day. It gave me some pause for reflection:
A member of the British royal family was leaving church after services one Sunday. He stopped for a moment to speak to the minister.
He asked, " Reverend, is there a place called Hell?"
The Reverend answers, " Certainly, Jesus speaks strongly on that. It is part of our church doctrine."
The member of the Royal Family then asked, " Then why don't you ever speak of it?"

Think about that. When was the last time you heard a sermon on Hell? Not a small mention, but a sermon. Certainly there is plenty in the Bible a sermon just on Hell could be based.

Think of this, if we say Jesus has defeated the grave: You receive eternal life; you go to heaven, what do you mean. What do you mean by death? Certainly every Christian who has ever walked the earth, or ever will, is going to die. Save a small fraction alive upon Christ's return. Jesus does not prevent that. So what do you mean? What is "Spiritual death"?

So what is this death you are spared from? If you did suffer that death what would it entail? When we do rarely mention God's wrath, what is that? Isn't he a God of love and blessings?

Maybe it's because we don't want to hear it. We wish to put a lid on that box and never speak of it. Maybe we are so focused on Him being a God of love that we forget, or deny, that he is also a God of justice and wrath. And that the justice and wrath are as much a part of him as the love.

Just a few thoughts.


Why should we believe any of it?


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There’s going to be a lot of surprised ‘christians’ there............


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i think hell would be an eternal democratic debate


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Originally Posted by Armednfree
I picked this up on the radio the other day. It gave me some pause for reflection:
A member of the British royal family was leaving church after services one Sunday. He stopped for a moment to speak to the minister.
He asked, " Reverend, is there a place called Hell?"
The Reverend answers, " Certainly, Jesus speaks strongly on that. It is part of our church doctrine."
The member of the Royal Family then asked, " Then why don't you ever speak of it?"

Think about that. When was the last time you heard a sermon on Hell? Not a small mention, but a sermon. Certainly there is plenty in the Bible a sermon just on Hell could be based.

Think of this, if we say Jesus has defeated the grave: You receive eternal life; you go to heaven, what do you mean. What do you mean by death? Certainly every Christian who has ever walked the earth, or ever will, is going to die. Save a small fraction alive upon Christ's return. Jesus does not prevent that. So what do you mean? What is "Spiritual death"?

So what is this death you are spared from? If you did suffer that death what would it entail? When we do rarely mention God's wrath, what is that? Isn't he a God of love and blessings?

Maybe it's because we don't want to hear it. We wish to put a lid on that box and never speak of it. Maybe we are so focused on Him being a God of love that we forget, or deny, that he is also a God of justice and wrath. And that the justice and wrath are as much a part of him as the love.

Just a few thoughts.



As for why do some preachers avoid sermons on Hell?

You get more fly's with honey than vinegar?

Might not be the best subject for maximizing collections?

It's at odds with claims of an "omni-benevolent" God?

Preaching from Revelations can be dangerous?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/lori-val...god-sent-to-prepare-world-for-apocalypse

The Vallows' marriage had been crumbling. Charles had filed for divorce, saying in court documents that he feared she would kill him and that she’d developed strange, doomsday-cult-like beliefs, reportedly calling herself “a god assigned to carry out the work of the 144,000 at Christ’s second coming in July 2020.”


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Originally Posted by NH K9
There’s going to be a lot of surprised ‘christians’ there............




You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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If hell is not being preached about regularly at the church you go to then you’re just lolly-gaggin. Why even go?

Maybe your church needs to hold a revival.

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“Lo, there do I see my father.
Lo, there do I see my mother,
and my sisters, and my brothers.
Lo, there do I see the line of my people,
Back to the beginning!

Lo, they do call to me.
They bid me take my place among them,
In the halls of Valhalla!
Where the brave may live forever!“


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Originally Posted by rem141r
i think hell would be an eternal democratic debate



It could be eternal religious debates on the internet or re-fighting the Civil War.


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Originally Posted by 280shooter
Originally Posted by rem141r
i think hell would be an eternal democratic debate



It could be eternal religious debates on the internet or re-fighting the Civil War.



Ahem....War of Northern Aggression thank you very much.


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Matthew 25:46 clearly says the wicked will have everlasting punishment, and the saved will have everlasting/eternal life. That’s pretty clear.

If one believes scripture, it says heaven is eternal, as is hell.

“And there shall be no night there, and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; the Lord God giveth the them light: and they shall reign forever and ever.” Rev 22:5

If believers have eternal life, rejecters of Jesus have eternal death (fire). 2 Thess 1:8-9 and Jude 7 mention eternal destruction.

Rejecting Jesus is a horrible eternal sin that requires eternal punishment.

It is so easy to be saved and avoid eternal hell. Just believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.
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Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by 280shooter
Originally Posted by rem141r
i think hell would be an eternal democratic debate



It could be eternal religious debates on the internet or re-fighting the Civil War.



Ahem....War of Northern Aggression thank you very much.



Gonna get ugly now.


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Good thread idea, and let be know that I, did not start it.


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Originally Posted by NH K9
There’s going to be a lot of surprised ‘christians’ there............


There's going to be a lot of surprised non- Christian there, also.


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I’m not so sure.
Those folks all kinda know the chance is there. I’d guess if they ‘come to’ in hell it won’t be much of a shock about location.


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