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For some of my "carbine pattern" AR's I'd like to experiment with a fixed buttstock. I'd also like to try a buttplate that is 90° to the bore. I've got Magpuls on most of them, and they usually have a little flex even when locked down, and also have a buttplate that is slightly tilted, which I assume is to help control muzzle rise in rapid fire? Accuracy in slow fire is what I'm chasing.

The plain old A2 stock works pretty well for me, as well as the Magpul PRS ( adjustable, heavy) but these are designed to bolt to a rifle length buffer tube. I am wondering if someone has a stock of similar function, that clamps securely directly on a carbine buffer tube. Or should I just bite the bullet and install a rifle tube? TIA


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I don't know of any A2 stocks that will fit on a carbine tube but have you tried a SOPMOD stock?

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I have not, so thanks, I found a picture at Midway and it looks interesting


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
For some of my "carbine pattern" AR's I'd like to experiment with a fixed buttstock. I'd also like to try a buttplate that is 90° to the bore. I've got Magpuls on most of them, and they usually have a little flex even when locked down, and also have a buttplate that is slightly tilted, which I assume is to help control muzzle rise in rapid fire? Accuracy in slow fire is what I'm chasing.

The plain old A2 stock works pretty well for me, as well as the Magpul PRS ( adjustable, heavy) but these are designed to bolt to a rifle length buffer tube. I am wondering if someone has a stock of similar function, that clamps securely directly on a carbine buffer tube. Or should I just bite the bullet and install a rifle tube? TIA


I'm going to go out on a limb and say damn I don't know what I'd do if I were in your situation.. Those rifle length buffer tubes are like gold. Far too pricey for the working man.. I feel for you man... Also, last I heard you have either option for mounting the gen 3 PRS. Either carbine length or rifle length tube. I only have 3 gen 3 stocks and a couple gen 2's, so maybe I don't know... Also, If I were chasing accuracy and wanted a better handling rifle I'd go with the rifle length gas system. Probably just me though..


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Originally Posted by charleeontop
Checkout this thread huntsman22 put a Doublestar ace on his, I got one and like.

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Interesting, thanks


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
For some of my "carbine pattern" AR's I'd like to experiment with a fixed buttstock. I'd also like to try a buttplate that is 90° to the bore. I've got Magpuls on most of them, and they usually have a little flex even when locked down, and also have a buttplate that is slightly tilted, which I assume is to help control muzzle rise in rapid fire? Accuracy in slow fire is what I'm chasing.

The plain old A2 stock works pretty well for me, as well as the Magpul PRS ( adjustable, heavy) but these are designed to bolt to a rifle length buffer tube. I am wondering if someone has a stock of similar function, that clamps securely directly on a carbine buffer tube. Or should I just bite the bullet and install a rifle tube? TIA


I'm going to go out on a limb and say damn I don't know what I'd do if I were in your situation.. Those rifle length buffer tubes are like gold. Far too pricey for the working man.. I feel for you man... Also, last I heard you have either option for mounting the gen 3 PRS. Either carbine length or rifle length tube. I only have 3 gen 3 stocks and a couple gen 2's, so maybe I don't know... Also, If I were chasing accuracy and wanted a better handling rifle I'd go with the rifle length gas system. Probably just me though..


I did not know the new PRS will fit a carbine tube, so that's good to know, thanks.

I am also thinking about making a tapered spacer that goes under the recoil pad on a standard Magpul ACS or similar stock, that allows the pad to sit at 90° to the bore.


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Here's a fixed carbine stock from Magpul, with a 12.3" LOP.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319195903

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I have a few Magpul fixed stocks and they are sturdy. If you need more length they make thicker recoil pads.

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White Oak has match adjustable stocks from this basic one on up to just shy of $500.
https://www.whiteoakarmament.com/shop/lower-parts/buttstock-parts/woa-adjustable-buttstock.html


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Here's a fixed carbine stock from Magpul, with a 12.3" LOP.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319195903


I had this on one of my ARs. For me, it is about 3/4" too short, which it would easy enough to insert a spacer of some sort. I do not have it mounted on anything at the moment.

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That Magpul fixed stock is what came to mind for me too.

Another option, and this is not really what you asked for (it's an adjustable carbine stock) but might address your complaints - the Rogers Super Stock. When adjusted right (the lock has a simple screw adjustment) it locks up solidly, with none of the wobble that the Magpul and other brands have. The butt plate isn't 90° but might be close enough to do what you want, depends how important that detail is to you. It's also a very light stock, significantly lighter than a basic Magpul MOE stock.
They are sorta hard to find, seems like not that many people know about them, but Wilson Combat sells them on their rifles, and they're available a few other places for usually $40-$50. If you don't care about color, Durkin Tactical has the silver (really just gray) for $18, I just ordered another from them myself: https://www.durkintactical.com/product/rogers-super-stock-mil-spec-silver/

Here is one of mine, this is the "silver" model.

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Originally Posted by Yondering
That Magpul fixed stock is what came to mind for me too.

Another option, and this is not really what you asked for (it's an adjustable carbine stock) but might address your complaints - the Rogers Super Stock. When adjusted right (the lock has a simple screw adjustment) it locks up solidly, with none of the wobble that the Magpul and other brands have. The butt plate isn't 90° but might be close enough to do what you want, depends how important that detail is to you. It's also a very light stock, significantly lighter than a basic Magpul MOE stock.
They are sorta hard to find, seems like not that many people know about them, but Wilson Combat sells them on their rifles, and they're available a few other places for usually $40-$50. If you don't care about color, Durkin Tactical has the silver (really just gray) for $18, I just ordered another from them myself: https://www.durkintactical.com/product/rogers-super-stock-mil-spec-silver/

Here is one of mine, this is the "silver" model.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Thanks - The MBA-4 stock looks interesting as well.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Here's a fixed carbine stock from Magpul, with a 12.3" LOP.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2319195903

I built an AR and put this stock on it. I really like it for it's compactness. But, it is a tad short for me and I gave it to my daughter in law is who is much shorter and more petite than me. Although I may consider it again for another short rifle I'm thinking of building. It's a truck gun kind of stock.

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