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This is spot on!

This isn't difficult to understand. It's entirely politically motivated and coordinated and no... it didn't require hundreds of conspirators planning and colluding together, it didn't require millionaires and billionaires agreeing to tank the market at their own cost, it didn't require the Chinese to manufacture and release a biological agent. It didn't require anything kooky.

The media, since several months before Trump was elected, has grabbed hold of everything and anything they think will take Trump out. They have literally thrown turd after turd at the wall hoping one will stick, but none has. To name just a few we've seen.... Access Hollywood, Stormy Daniels, Steele dossier / Russia collusion, and the Ukraine quid pro quo (for which they impeached him). All of those were just as bogus as this nonsense and they weren't enough to separate Trump from his base.

Clearly, the media has repeatedly demonstrated that they can pull something like this off. They don't need a vast left wing, big room full of conspirators to make it work. They have a handful of influential leaders running their companies, who HATE Trump and are happy to tacitly work together against him. This all started with that Chinese commie doctor who went public with his dire and dramatic warning video. I guarantee a few in the media saw that as another turd to toss against the wall to see if it'd stick... and it has to an extent.

There are many left wing leaders on record saying they'd be happy to see the economy tank if it'd take Trump out. My hope is people will see what is happening and begin to backlash against it... this is hurting real people.

I watched most of the address.
Discussion centered on rolling out testing and partnering with private industry to speed this.
Short of loosening restrictions and giving healthcare more latitude I heard nothing of substance about a plan to manage the positive cases. Telemedicine offers nothing substantive in this instance.
Frankly in an area with high disease prevalence and negative flu a/b swab a person with consistent symptoms, lower respiratory symptoms and/or evolving interstitial pneumonia on chest films is presumed to have COVID. Once positives/presumptive positives are identified they should be isolated and triaged to care. We as a country can bring great resources to bear for a smaller number of patients but do not have capacity to care for mass casualties in the present framework.Community hospitals will be immediately overwhelmed.
There should be a mobilization to prepare local arenas, stadiums, bus depots etc for treatment of large numbers of people and forced quarantine by National Guard or the like. Contact tracing will be expected. Domestic travel should be curtailed. Retired physicians, nurses, EMS should be identified/self identify to assist in care as the existing force will need support. Ventilators need to be procured. PPE needs to be made available.
Do I think this pandemic will amount to a large number of deaths in the US? Hopefully not but too early to say and the consequences of underestimating this are large. Do I think the left is exploiting this? Yes, absolutely. I do think ginning up public fear is having unintended but helpful benefit in terms of causing people to hold off on travel. Do we need to reclaim manufacture of meds and medical equipment in this country? Yes as a matter of national security. If not this, then only a matter of time until we are confronted with legitimate test of our capabilities.
I write this as a staunch Trump supporter and physician.

So, take alla your own money, and start preparin these locations.

Or, you could open your own privately funded place ta take care of the millions that will be knockin down your door.

Nobody's stoppin ya.

There is quite a bit I don't know about covid-19 and that bothers me. I don't know just how contagious it is and I don't know just how bad the effects might be if one catches it. I don't know if the virus is likely to run it's course and be gone or if it will be an ongoing issue. I don't know if there will be any long term effects on recovered patients. In short, I don't know if I should try to avoid the virus completely or just count on catching it and deal with the outcome.
There are some things about the covid-19 virus of which I'm quite certain. I'm quite certain Donald Trump's actions have been appropriate although I think he has made some misstatements along the way. I'm also quite certain the Barrack Obama had nothing whatsoever to do with the covid-19 virus. Whether or not he would have handled the issue today any better or any worse is something we can't know. As it is, we have a situation which will have some ramifications. I'm quite certain the media is doing what they can to keep the drama quotient as high as possible. I don't know whether or not they are being manipulated by the Dems but I do believe they are , and always have been, left leaning so they might as well be.
I'm over 70, healthy in all respects, and live in a semi remote area. My nearest town is ten miles, nearest supermarket is thirty miles, and my nearest neighbor is 3/4 mile away. I probably have as good a chance of total avoidance as anyone. If I am infected, I have no reason to think I'm as likely to be OK as most 40 year olds.
One thing this outbreak has shown us is that our social structure is fragile and it doesn't take much to cause near-panic. It's a bit of a wake-up call. GD

strange coincidences ?

My take is, oh well, I am not going to try to expose myself but not going stop living either.

If it gets me and I die it was nice knowing you all,

C-ya

Yeah, I was afraid you were not smart enough to understand. Calling me a liberal is the biggest indicator of your ignorance.

Here is a link to a discussion which might shed some light into the recesses of your mind. The CDC says this will all be over within three or four months. Well of course it will, by their numbers for the rate of infection, every man woman and child in the USA will have contracted C-19 within four months.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...-strategic-medicine-reserve#Post14659900

Bogus... years are not all correct...

Some facts, aren't.

yeah well, Nostradumbass predicted a lot of things after the fact too but never sees anything coming.

Why weren't we informed of this prior?

Just curious, Any people on this thread have any medical background whatsoever?

Ok, liberal.

You've taken the stand that it's the biggest killer since cancer.

You posted the link in support.

Will everbody be infected, or not?

Or do you just wanna feel good bout tryin ta stop it, while increasing the size of .gov?

Not only are you stupid. You are a lying sack of schitt. I already explained that I was far from liberal. I never asked for any increase in gov't. I never made any comparison to Cancer.

And absolutely YES, everyone in this nation will contract C-19 within the next four months. (with the exception of a few hermits who avoid all social contact).

Everybody WILL be infected. At least 1 out of 100 will die. 10 out of 100 in OUR demographic will die.

Those are my firm beliefs and prognostications. The data is available from all over the world to support this.

I stayed in a holiday inn express several times, does that count?

Now we're gettin somewhere.

1 outta 100 will die.

350 million in the US.

Divided by 100 = 3.5 million dead from corona, in the US.

Your prediction.

Could work out, if alla the ones that die is liberals like you.

Millions have it right now. This is a very infectious virus, so when you hear there are people who are in the hospital with positive tests, assume the walking around rate of the virus is 100-10000x fold.

I remember daily phone calls with public health departments during 09/10 swine flu. 50-70 million infected, 20K dead with a percentage of those being children and not a single thing got canceled.

Look, 20k people in a country of 320+ million shouldn't shut us down. Otherwise, every year, during virus season, we are going to have to shut the country down. That may sound harsh but it's just how it works.

This hysteria doesn't make any sense and is being fueled by individuals or groups who have bad motives.

Current deaths are put at 50,

But you are certain it will peak at over 3 million?




Spanish flu killed near 700,000 Americans out of
a population of 103 million... (0.67%)

If we apply 1918 death rate to the current
population, it would amount to 2.2 million vs
your 3+million for C19.

ie: you are claiming C19 death rate (@1% )
will be at least 50% higher than 1918 (0.67%)

When the doctors start sounding like nurses you know it is bullsheet.

no , it'll be no where close, book it!