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I only have 1 at present but at one time I had 5 (FIVE).
IF the word venerable is appropriate anywhere it's Venerable 30-06 !
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Make mine a 300 savage then. Its every bit as good as the 308 and the 30-06. Those bigger rounds are far too over rated.... Hell, the 300 savage may even put a good whooping on the 300 magnums as well... That's what I'm thinking! Hell, Brad said as much and that's good enough for me. Yep ! ALL HAIL !! Jerry
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I have moved some but, I think I have 7 left to use.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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People who live in Alaska and on the continental divide where Elk, and dangerous game exist... yep. 06
East of that or absent of those 308
95% of the hunting I do is in grizzly country. I opt for the 308. Seems that those that have the loudest opinion on this subject have mostly shot deer. In Arkansas, or Pennsylvania. My observation for a long time has remained - “cartridges are more alike than different.”
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People who live in Alaska and on the continental divide where Elk, and dangerous game exist... yep. 06
East of that or absent of those 308
95% of the hunting I do is in grizzly country. I opt for the 308. Seems that those that have the loudest opinion on this subject have mostly shot deer. In Arkansas, or Pennsylvania. My observation for a long time has remained - “cartridges are more alike than different.” Are you just going to run around copying and pasting this same post all the while editing to add states?
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Mike
I don’t know about Pa but in. SW Arkansas we are USED to the wind blowing.
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More than one right answer!
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Are you just going to run around copying and pasting this same post all the while editing to add states?
Only as long as you run around pretending to have a clue...
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Are you just going to run around copying and pasting this same post all the while editing to add states?
Only as long as you run around pretending to have a clue... Keep going then. You'll need to list a bunch more states just to cover me.
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States maybe, clues none.
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything.
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything. Show me multiple species of actual big game you’ve taken with each the 308, 30-06, and 300 Mag... you talk a big talk, let’s see the animals (bigger than deer) taken with each three.
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything. Show me multiple species of actual big game you’ve taken with each the 308, 30-06, and 300 Mag... you talk a big talk, let’s see the animals (bigger than deer) taken with each three. Oh wow. Games. And I "talk a big talk" by believing that more case capacity is equal to more performance! Even Captain Obvious could come up with that. Well I've never hunted with a 300 mag of any flavor and have only used the 308 on deer and antelope. And that's because when the animals get big I tend to take a 30-06. But even at that, I believe a .300 magnum has an edge over my beloved aught six.
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The .30-06 is a cartridge that has stood the test of time, can't say I believe many of the rounds shooters are currently infatuated with will be around as long as the '06.
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything. Show me multiple species of actual big game you’ve taken with each the 308, 30-06, and 300 Mag... you talk a big talk, let’s see the animals (bigger than deer) taken with each three. Oh wow. Games. And I "talk a big talk" by believing that more case capacity is equal to more performance! Even Captain Obvious could come up with that. Well I've never hunted with a 300 mag of any flavor and have only used the 308 on deer and antelope. And that's because when the animals get big I tend to take a 30-06. But even at that, I believe a .300 magnum has an edge over my beloved aught six. Let’s see the animals with each since you have such a strong opinion...
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything. Show me multiple species of actual big game you’ve taken with each the 308, 30-06, and 300 Mag... you talk a big talk, let’s see the animals (bigger than deer) taken with each three. FWIW I've seen substantial numbers of pigs, deer (including a few sambar, which are close to elk-sized) and other medium game killed with both .308 and .30/06 and, assuming a suitable bullet and shot placement I haven't noticed any difference in effectiveness. A couple of people I know have used the .30/06 on buffalo, and it seemed to me based on how they went that there are better choices, though it is true to say that the .30/06 is better able to handle the 240 gn bullets they were using than a .308 would be.
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No doubt the '06 is a great cartridge. Whatever that means. Arguments about which cartridge is better seem cabin-feverish though.
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The .30-06 is a cartridge that has stood the test of time, can't say I believe many of the rounds shooters are currently infatuated with will be around as long as the '06. I feel that is a safe bet. Jerry
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I've always been a fan of something different. I own a 30-06, and keep it because it was a gift. I've shot a couple or so, whitetail deer with the '06, and consider it to be a fine elk cartridge. That said, my little brother, who is sorta late to the game, as far as hunting and buying hunting rifles is concerned just bought himself a 30-06. He bought it because it was a favorite of our grandfather, who was a WWII veteran. I could not argue his choice. Factory ammo is lying everywhere. You could argue, that a person could buy 180 grain Federal Fusion, and kill everything on the NA continent. It isn't my choice, but the point has been made, many moons ago, "The 30-06 is never a bad choice."
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States maybe, clues none. Cute. I mean the premise that if one doesn't agree that the .308 is equal to the 30-06 that that means one doesn't have a "clue" about anything. Show me multiple species of actual big game you’ve taken with each the 308, 30-06, and 300 Mag... you talk a big talk, let’s see the animals (bigger than deer) taken with each three. Oh wow. Games. And I "talk a big talk" by believing that more case capacity is equal to more performance! Even Captain Obvious could come up with that. Well I've never hunted with a 300 mag of any flavor and have only used the 308 on deer and antelope. And that's because when the animals get big I tend to take a 30-06. But even at that, I believe a .300 magnum has an edge over my beloved aught six. Let’s see the animals with each since you have such a strong opinion... Crickets...
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