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Viral shedding has been recorded up to 37 days into the illness. That means people could be spreading it for 37 days. Kids are quite likely to spread it because they reproduce it quite well but often show very few symptoms.

Our local school plans to shut down for 2 days to clean after a student tests positive then reopen just in time for his classmates to return infectious.

I made the decision to hold my kids out. I guess I'm pro school choice. Let the people decide if they want to role the dice I guess. Doesn't make sense to me to ban group activities of 250 or more but leave large schools open.

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Okkkaaayyyyy.......

How does the statement respond to the thread title?

A backwards country is not a "First World" country. Italy is very much a First World Country. I believe you are confusing the notion of Third World Country with Italy and defending it against the charge. Yet your statement can only be interpreted as putting Italy in neither a First World Category, nor a backward (Third World) category... which makes no sense.

I think that was simply a writing mistake. Easy to do. It always pays to review what you've just written before submitting it.

Just remember............what goes around, comes around, and you'll be old some day.

That's socialized medicine for you.

They aren't old because the healthcare is so great - it sucks. They are old on average because they didn't have many children. Their population has been shrinking.

The old average age is just another fruit of socialism. No need to have kids, the state will take care of you when you are old.

X2. Single payer system, just like Sanders wants...

IItaly might meet the financial definition of First World, but it doesn't meet the political definition. Italy is definitely a socialist country with a socialist retirement and health system. It would be closer fit with a second world communist system. The definition has varied Since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Statistics are like bikinis.....they show ALOT but not everything nor what really matters...……..college professor.

So, isn't 2 percent of 350 million like 700,000? There's huge value in steps to curb transmission so everyone don't get it. Thinking it's all hype is foolish, no?

No. 7 million. But, that assumes 100% infection rate.

The Diamond Princess is still the best we have as far as an indication of mortality. 696 people infected, everyone tested, 7 dead so far,and 321 still active. So, 1% so far.

That is so true, and I never hear that mentioned. I spent 2 weeks travelling all over Italy. You are talking to some Italian guy you just met, he can't keep his hands off of you.
It is not [bleep], but they just pat you on the shoulder, kind of squeeze your arm etc. I was with a good looking blonde and she got touched left, right and center.

I have seen no other culture where the people are constantly touching and feeling one another. Bad deal when a deadly virus breaks out.

Exactly. Calculator fubar! Be it 1, 2, 7 percent fatal, that's serious chit, keeping the infection numbers down is all we have. Reasonable measures for short times seems prudent to me.

1800 in a little over a month amounts to 20,000 give or take a little in a year. Italy has a population of 60 million. Proportionally, that would likey amount to over 100 thousand deaths in the US.

BUT... They like us are still in the knee portion of the rise curve for the dumfuggs who do not understand math here. Following the curve of the numbers infected coud produce 4.2 MILLION DEAD PEOPLE if they o not get a handle on it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Not every opinion has equal value.
Opinions of value are based on knowledge, experience, critical thinking/judgment.
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a dumbass.
Sometimes those agreeing with you are dumb or dumber.

This is not about politics. Take the time to read information not provided by talking heads.

Whatever else this may be: it is highly contagious, it spreads rapidly, a significant number of people develop a very serious form of pneumonia.

China and Italy outbreaks are not just the flu. Hospitals and health care got slammed.
I have several family members in high risk catagories. I don’t want them to die because some dumbass can’t put aside bias and think through the data.

They won't get it if they are smart & take care of themselves. Wanting everyone else to change their behavior when you could easily control your own is the very definition of a liberal.

P.I.I.G.S. if that means anything to anybody?

Thats not what I meant.

Everyone is calling Italy a schit hole.....I say it cant be so bad if they have such a good life expectancy.

Good post ^^^^^^^

Worldwide or in the US, Miles?