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Man, an 8 hour shift of that would make a person old in a hurry.

Under the dimocrap health care desired Medicaid plan a dr could probably make a cool $150 a day doing that.

Beans, beans, the musical fruit!

Bout time you got here.

Was your turn in the liberal tag team along time ago.

Since it's so stupid, it should be easy to refute with facts.

Have at it.

Prove you're the Moe, outta all the stooges.

Fubs,
Fit a exponential growth equation to it. The slope is, roughly, the instantaneous value, R(naught). Go on now, You can figure that out. Right?

My brother is a nursing supervisor in Seattle. My SIL is a nurse practitioner, and my neighbor is an MD. They all say the same thing. It's dangerous, but the panic is overblown. 2 said that the most disturbing thing that they are seeing is that some younger patients appear to recover, but may permanently lose some lung function.

Hopefully a positive sign today in Italy the new deaths today (651) and new cases reported (5560) are both down from yesterday. Still staggering, but down. There death total of 2 weeks ago was where we are right now.

Lets see them sustain this for 3 more days before we call it a trend.

You clearly have no understanding of R Nought or how it works as evidenced by your post.

Here let me help you.
https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number#conditions


Also as of this morning the known infections you claimed at 30k, R Nought at work claims that number will be well over 70k shortly

The amount of confirmed cases in any given day, is related only to the amount of tests given within that day.

It's rising because more tests are being conducted, which has no relation to the spread of the cold virus.

Ok math wiz.

With exponential growth - a doubling approximately every four days as observed elsewhere, without mitigation measure put in place:

Tell me when 35,746 (today's USA case count) people becomes essentially 330,000,000 people?

I'll give you some help, here's the formula for exponential growth: x(t) = x0 × (1 + r)^ t

Where:

x(t) is the value at time t.

x0 is the initial value at time t=0.

r is the growth rate when r>0 or decay rate when r<0, in percent.

t is the time in discrete intervals and selected time units.



With an R0 of only 1 ( below current estimates for R0) in the above equation r = 1 ( 1 = 100%). When you get the answer for x(t), be sure to multiply that by 4 days. Heck, use 5 days or six days if you want. That's how long until everyone that hasn't isolated themselves is exposed to the virus.

Remember, unlike seasonal influenza, there is no significant immunity to this novel coronavirus. Every one that is exposed to enough of a viral load will contract the disease. Symptoms of course will vary greatly.

Now, since the pool of those susceptible to this virus = every human on the planet, why not go for extra credit. How long does it take to go from 335,157 cases worldwide to the entire population of the planet?

I know I know I know. If you wash your hands often and don't touch your face, a really long time.

Thank you for your participation. Here's a trophy!

Fubarski is being invincibly stupid on this subject. No need to explain anything to someone who chooses to behave in such a way.

Looks like the position of Moe, is still open.

Anyway, since this is the Italy thread, the latest from a liberal's favorite country:

"Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.

“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,” he says."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...death-rates-in-italy-may-be-exaggerated/

So, a person has Diabetes. They contract Covid-19, which kills them through pneumonia. The coroner should record cause of death as Diabetes?

What a politically motivated, twisted POS that statement is. The bottom line is that those patients would still be living with their comorbidity conditions had they not become infected w/ C-19. C-19 is the primary causitive factor in their death.

But, in reference to patients in US, of course most of them were past their productive years, and living as leaches upon Social Security, Medicare, Private or Public Pension Funds, 401 K and savings, and yes possibly Medicaid, and welfare.

So society is better off with them gone anyway. RIGHT?

The important question here is: what was the political motivation behind the piece? Possibly to tear down the response Trump has organized to the epidemic sweeping the country? To simply discredit the Greatest President since Reagan?

People want to talk about liberal TOOLS?

^^^^THIS^^^^^

I’m starting to wonder if he’s a militant liberal troll, here to undermine the facts, reason, and common sense.

The equivalent of finding some link of some poll that showed Hillary was a lock pick for the presidency....

"only 12 percent" WTF?

You're truly looking stupid on this subject.

America ain’t Italy folks! It’s aging population of heavy smokers and drinkers have skewed their numbers dramatically.
Plus I’m betting they don’t have the personal hygiene/ hand washing habits that Most Americans do !!!

Appears a news article can cause as much hysteria as a cold virus.

I would not take that bet.

For what ever reason...if you are the kind of person that would schit at a grocery store or WalMart....you seem to be the kind of person who will not wash their hands afterwards.