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The local repair and dealership shops are out two-three weeks just doing oil changes for all the snowbirds that want to get out of town.


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Yep - no published list of any kind yet...


The list is out. Mostly stuff that was already closed.

Except now it’s illegal to go to my Dad’s house for supper.
Thanks for your post - I just found the list and printed it out... Essentially (PUN!) I can stay open - but I will only do business via shipping/receiving and will prohibit walk-in customers for now.. Not because of me - but my wife is very susceptible to this stuff and if she gets it she may very well not make it... Trouble is, she's an RN and has to work at a cancer clinic although her job now is 99% computer-oriented.. Still - people come and go; can't avoid it..

But I can avoid people here pretty easily..


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Managed to save the tooth with some dremel and resin work.

As far as WI being closed, basically a declaration without change. Bars still closed everything else open and I had a bit of traffic in town.

GB may be different given all the transportation and paper work we do. Just about everyone is essential.

I'm glad your tooth is repaired. Appleton area still has some traffic. I live on a 2 lane state highway east of Appleton. Guessing traffic is 20% of the volume before all of this.

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Well they left an exemption so I have to take my daughter back to her mother. Taking her back doesn't make any sense to me, can't convince her mom that keeping her in rural Richland county makes a lot more sense than driving her back to Madison...then my ex never did give a [bleep] about anyone but herself anyway.

On the plus side, had another 70 pounds of barley delivered today, so I should be good on beer for the foreseeable future.


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Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".


I can see how some construction projects would be essential to life sustaining businesses or industries.

What is your point?


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Originally Posted by MarkFed
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Apparently Union construction projects are considered "essential".


I can see how some construction projects would be essential to life sustaining businesses or industries.

What is your point?

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.

What's wrong with that picture.


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Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
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Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
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Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


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Now the phkng cheese aisle will be empty. This has to end.


Cheese? Pffft

BEER. Must.....have.....beer.

If you think nobody's happy if Mom's not happy, wait 'til Dad runs out of beer.


I haven't seen the list, but I heard liquor stores are considered "essential". It is Wisconsin after all! smile


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


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Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.

Last edited by steve4102; 03/26/20.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


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Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.



Go ahead and tell that to the guys still working here. As someone who has worked in the trades here for years, I can tell you with absolute certainty, either, you have been misinformed or you're just a troll.

And that's all I have to say about that.


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Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Pssst, “Housing” construction is NOT new single family Home Construction.
It is housing for elderly, low income, high income town homes, Apartment complexes, etc, at that is all a Union.



Go ahead and tell that to the guys still working here. As someone who has worked in the trades here for years, I can tell you with absolute certainty, either, you have been misinformed or you're just a troll.

And that's all I have to say about that.

LOL
Not only have I “worked” in the trades for over 40 years, I have been a Project Manager for almost 20 of that 40. If fact I thought I was retired, but they keep calling me back now and then to manage current projects that need some assistance.

In fact I just checked on a couple permits I submitted several weeks ago, was told they will not be issuing any non- commercial ( Union) permits till further notice.


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Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by steve4102

Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.


Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Oh and BTW Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin .


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CowboyTim
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Redneck
[quote=steve4102]
Union construction projects are "essential", non-union are not essential.
.
Bull..... Right in the list it shows that's not correct..


Essential Infrastructure includes, but is not limited to: food production,
distribution, fulfillment centers, storage facilities, marinas, and sales;
construction (including, but not limited to, construction required in response to this public health emergency, hospital construction,
construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction, except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided);


All Union construction except
except that
optional or aesthetic construction should be avoided)

Non Union home remodelers, siding contractors, deck contractors, those that build additions, basically all small non-union contractors are to stay home.


No it's not correct, A couple of the biggest general contractors in the state are non-union. So are some of the concrete contractors we bid against.


construction of long-term care and assisted living facilities, public
works construction, school construction, Essential Business and
Operations construction, construction necessary for Essential
Governmental Functions, and housing construction



ALL have Government Monies invested, ALL Required to be Union.[/quote

Evidently you've never heard of Stevens or Kraemer Brothers Construction, they are MAJOR players in commercial construction in WI, hell seems like Kraemer gets 1/2-2/3 of the schools and Stevens practically OWNs the big projects near the downtown in Madison.

It also CLEARLY states that housing construction is exempt, that is largely non union. I've got non union buddies still working right now building houses and I'm laid off for the first time in 2 years.

But what do I know, I've only been in the building trades, in Wisconsin,(first non union, later union) for over 25 years...

You're argument makes about as much sense as coyote hunting in the middle of a lake.


Oh and BTW Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin .


There are 3 "Kraemer" companies 2 are Union, (rock quarry company, and bridge construction. USED to be the same company but split about 20 years ago). KRAEMER BROTHERS is a "commercial" construction company, NON-UNION(the original companies were started by different members of the same family and were 2 separate businesses...both in Plain WI, just down the road from each other. One is and always has been Union(they do mostly quarry and bridge work), the other isn't.

I worked for Kraemer Brothers in the 90s, they got slow I found a different job...they were and still are NON union.

It is nice to know that working for years in a different state makes you such an expert on how things are in Wisconsin...you are aware that the Unions are stronger in MN than they are here right?

"Kraemer is a member of both the ABC and AGC of Wisconsin ." They sure are, after 40 years in the trades you should know that neither of those has anything to do with whether a company is union or not.


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