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WW2 finally brought us out of the great depression. Just a thought.

You, Sir
Have the sort of attitude that made (and keeps) this country great.

Thank you.

Our participation in it only harmed us, but it's true that WWII brought us out of it. It did so because we were selling to nations at war, not because we participated in the war. We would have been even better off if we had remained neutral, and continued to sell to the participants. As it is, we accumulated most of the world's gold by selling to all participants.

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Whats the big deal...2 trillion is only 12 zeros behind the number 2...

everyone knows, democRAT politicians can't count.. and zeros mean nothing... so 12 of them still mean nothing.. at least according to their logic...

politicians are not trying to take care of the American public right now.. they are putting our children's future into more serious debt so the public will look at them favorably at the next election.. they are trying to save their jobs, at the American public's expense is all their motivation is here....

we make money, or nation makes money, when we work... not receiving Government hand outs that the taxes paid in the future have to pay for it all....that is the way politicians think, and so much of the public falls for it..

The land of the Free isn't the same FREE meaning it use to be....

and even the Free we use to brag upon.. they are busy taking that away as fast as they can...

any of you think they aren't sitting new standards and precedents with this corona virus "response" with all their new
politically correct terms..." social distancing" etc... and how they are having people stand in line outside of stores, and only leeting in small crowds of 50 or less at a time? a scene that looks real familiar in front of stores in Venezuela and Cuba...

this whole corona virus response, is a communists wet dream world wide...

Show me where I stated gone forever, never to return, you troll.

Elkhumper you mad bro???...

Carry on...

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I feel bad for people living paycheck to paycheck , but a business “living” week to week may need to seriously consider being an employee instead of an employer.

It’s been TWO WEEKS!

More debt for our kids and grand kids. We are screwing them more and more every day when we keep these nitwits in Congress.

kwg

Thanks for taking the time to pen that sir. You are the Salt of the Earth, and I wish you good health and happiness during these trying times.

My great grandfather was a extremely wealthy Rancher/Farmer in north Texas, who gave back huge amounts to help build the community around where he lived, and unfortunately, he lost his holdings to the Great Depression.

All of these huge downturns, could have been avoided, just like this unwarranted shut down of the economy. Middle class spends their lifetime to raise good moral children, who will grow to raise families to carry on the great traditions of this nation, and to have this unnecessary misery thrown in their faces again and again, is TREASON.

There are a tremendous amount of small business owners in the country, who love living the entrepreneur life, and are solid citizens and family patriarchs. Unfortunately they are forced to fight in a dog-eat-dog competitive world that has been forced upon them to the point they can barely survive in this corrosive business environment that government has created.

Many start a business without the business or financial knowledge needed to survive, as they jump head long into chasing their dreams. That is what gets so many, especially in the contractor circle, great technician, great ambition, but don't take the time to learn the business side, and not having seen the back office and what it takes to make the wheels turn from all sides, they learn as they go. A lot would rather scrape by, than work for the-man, which you can't blame them, after all, they have a right to chase that dream. It's the American way, or use to be, and just got more difficult, $2T.

RE: comments on debt, if I had my way, the country would have ZERO debt, and actually a surplus. But......previous politicians got us to where we are......in corporate America, many companies have some debt. Many spend CAPEX in hopes for an ROI.

As to this bill, the price IS astronomical I agree, likely Far excess of what COULD be spent to accomplish the means of saving America from an economic collapse. What is that number? I don't know, but surely not this price tag. If you need to repair your house or car what do you do? Figure out exactly what needs to be done, and pay that much, not more. The bill sure seems to have a ridiculous amount of money in it, when we do not really know the price for the solution.

As to draining the swamp, I believe Trump has been, and is the right President for the job. I cannot imagine anyone else doing better than he has, is, and will. Just MY opinion. Yes, he has spent money, military, etc. and more to do with infrastructure. I am VERY conservative btw.....and would love to see Every excess dollar squeezed out of our bloated government. Likely never to happen until if or when our country is 'bankrupt' - and at the trend we are on, that day may well come in coming years. I agree, putting this debt and all the national debt on future generations is a disservice to them, and not right. That said, I do not know how you avoid a financial collapse without the government stepping in to help the matters. I am not for bail outs. I would be for loans, that unlike GM, that would mandate the companies have to pay back 100%, not a penny less.

This pandemic has shown the world how fragile things really are when in just a few weeks, an unseen event has a once thriving nation and it's leaders on edge. God help us all if we ever get a REALLY big event of any kind......a major war, or disease like the plague, etc.

This is a REALLY big event. The war will come when the numbers start coming in: Unemployment, future earnings adjustments, DOWN. Those will be two REALLY HUGE bombs.

Cashflow got vapor locked, and this engine is not about to just simply start right back up. It "never" has after an event like this.

I may be over my head here.
Maybe it can be start of UBI - universal basic income ?

Let me be the first to tell you, yes, you are over your head.

Thank you,

Management

get this, there is about 11 trillion in mortgage debt in total. 2 trillion is about 18% of that. The average mortgage balance is about $150k What that means is the government could send everyone with a mortgage $27,000 to pay it down!!!! holy freaking crap.

A large part will go to freeloaders

Agreed. Corporate freeloaders.