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Don't mention it. Always willing to help.

I can't understand why we're spending $2.5 trillion in stimulus and another $3 trillion in QE if we're going to reopen by Easter. That's ~2 weeks away and those funds are in addition to existing programs like unemployment insurance.

Thanks for that Doc!

Thanks, Doc R. Missing your once frequent posts on the Fire.

Sorry for my asswhole fire buds back when you once did.

Let's go fishing when we get past this.

I have a bud with a lot of catfish in his pond and a real nice Yeti.

Take care out there and GOD bless you and yours.

Thanks for sharing with us.

Thank you Doctor...truly appreciated

Thanks Doc. Well put, and highly informative.

Until we know more, I'll just stay mostly hunkered down at home behind my cases of toilet paper with my AK 14 and hundred-round clips nearby waiting for Dopey Joe to save us.

Disagree on one point Doc, piss on funding the UN for anything. Also when do you believe the CDC can report the preliminary burden estimates for Covid-19 like they guesstimate for the commom flu ?


Flu estimates October 2019 thru March 2020
38 to 54 million flu illnesses
17 to 35 million flu medical visits
390,000 to 710,000 flu hospitalizations
23,000 to 59,000 flu deaths

In other words , when can we expect some perspective ?

Accept my thanks, too, Doc.

First of all, I wish you well and healthy. My former (I’m retired) administrator did mention to me Iowa’s allowing retired and “expired” (within five years) health care providers could be pressed into service. I highly doubt it here in Iowa where we have some hundred + cases and “only” one death to date as of last Tuesday. My hospital is only doing emergent surgery now and postponing all elective cases. But, who knows; where are we on the curve of critically ill people?

My wife and I are of the “vulnerable class” and remain mostly home-bound. Not worried or frenzied at all, but going by guidelines as particular to our state to be responsible. Re-evaluation of all this will be given plenty of time later.

As to China, there’s a good article on American Thinker today as to the different communist factions who have used the virus to maneuver for position before ever even acknowledging the virus itself. China is never, ever to be trusted as is true of all Marxist-communists. Cue in the despicable progressives and DNC leadership, who again, showed their true colors in cobbling up the “rescue” bill. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/wake_up_america_emchinaem_is_the_pandemic.html

See also: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/wake_up_america_emchinaem_is_the_pandemic.html

As to the economy, there is an interface somewhere between the efficiently sequestering everybody To minimize spread vs. the jump-starting of the economy again before serious failure occurs. Nobody, at this time knows where that point is. It’s clear Trump wants to get people back to work sooner rather than later.

The media? Mostly, without exception, a bunch of ignorant, deluded, deceptive incorrigibles. Which, along with their mother-arm, the DNC leadership and their progressives in this country remain far more insidious and dangerous than this virus will ever be.

Thanks Doc! Much appreciated!

What would that entail? Testing everyone, or everyone who asks, or...? I have none of the symptoms listed on the CDC site nor does anyone in my household, and it is just us here. We go out and climb or hike or the like, mind good preventive practices when we do, etc. so we think we pretty good on the risk front.

Would it make any sense to test one or all of us?

And also: help me understand how that would help us be more predictive. If say 50% of infected become symptomatic, and we test 50% of people who report with symptoms, and 50% of those come back positive....isn’t that enough data to model how many ICU beds and such we will need? Or do the missing data have a large impact because the model is exponential?

Finally, the voice of reason...

Good info, and thanks for sharing, Doc.

Thank you for taking the time to give your perspective. Much appreciated.

x2. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Hopefully the bedwetters won't come along to argue with you, too.

As an old test (high tech) guy, you need data to make decisions. To get that we need testing. Test, Test, and Test again. We're not going to get a handle on this until we know who, where, and how many are infected or exposed (antibodies).

Thanks DR.

DocRocket,

Thanks for taking the time for the research and for posting such a level headed post. You'll never get ahead with this type of info instead of fear hype.
Again, thanks.

Thanks for that Doc. If you have time, I'd know I would get great value of updates on your thoughts as this thing progresses...

Thanks doc...