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well if we keep doubling deaths every 4 days, we should all be gone by June. don't think so... Wow... I think I'll hold off doing my taxes until I find out whether I die or not. If I die I'll hold off a bit longer.
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Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce βThe Devil's Dictionaryβ
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So if someone has lung cancer, heart disease and has lost several limbs to diabetic and contracts COVID-19, is it really a "Corona Death"?
How we count does matter.
On that note, here is a factoid I picked up from a New Orleans news station: Out of all COVID related deaths in Louisiana, only 5-percent were patients without preexisting health conditions. 41-percent had diabetes, 31-percent had chronic kidney disease and 28-percent were obese. Source: https://www.fox8live.com/2020/03/28/ldh-diabetes-leading-underlying-condition-covid-related-deaths/
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Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce βThe Devil's Dictionaryβ
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So if someone has lung cancer, heart disease and has lost several limbs to diabetic and contracts COVID-19, is it really a "Corona Death"?
How we count does matter.
On that note, here is a factoid I picked up from a New Orleans news station: Out of all COVID related deaths in Louisiana, only 5-percent were patients without preexisting health conditions. 41-percent had diabetes, 31-percent had chronic kidney disease and 28-percent were obese. Source: https://www.fox8live.com/2020/03/28/ldh-diabetes-leading-underlying-condition-covid-related-deaths/Only 28% obese? That sounds really low for new Orleans.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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lol, dogs really DO know how to relax
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well if we keep doubling deaths every 4 days, we should all be gone by June. don't think so... Wow... I think I'll hold off doing my taxes until I find out whether I die or not. If I die I'll hold off a bit longer. rofl, good strategiary there!
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well if we keep doubling deaths every 4 days, we should all be gone by June. don't think so... Wow... I think I'll hold off doing my taxes until I find out whether I die or not. If I die I'll hold off a bit longer. rofl, good strategiary there! Damnit!!! I already payed mine! π¬
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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How long until we're all dead? Soon if you believe some of those Experts. π‘ No, the intelligent question is, "How long until we have all been exposed and either get sick, or not. Either die or not." That is when this will be over. I have been saying for about three weeks, that will be July 4. But infection and death rates are climbing much faster than was ever predicted three weeks ago. We might be able to move that date forward a couple or three weeks. No one EVER claimed ALL would die. The worst projections have been one to two percent of the population. It is a bell curve, not an exponential graph into infinity.
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Iβm holding out hope that by the time I come out of Irfubarβs bunker a vaccine will be available.
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Needing a new batch of hookers, running low on blow and Red Bull as mixer....Send more ASAP.
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It will be another 60-90 days before this starts to really tail off quickly & a lot more people in the U.S. are very likely to die, how many, I don't know, especially in the really uncontrolled areas as already mentioned on both the east & west coasts with lots of non-while immigrants.
They are the biggest offenders among the spreaders.
Maybe even in Florida as well, surely Detroit & Chicago, Philly, possibly Texas.
If the potential meds that help or minimize the effect could be dispersed & given to the masses faster, it could really help. shouldn't be that hard, but it's a political football right now.
Whatever the real trajectory or situation is come November, whoever is elected will have no more influence on it than anyone else, but the reporting might change................what won't be affected is the real number of actual deaths.
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Iβm holding out hope that by the time I come out of Irfubarβs bunker a vaccine will be available.
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Needing a new batch of hookers, running low on blow and Red Bull as mixer....Send more ASAP.
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In the USA, Wednesday there were 1000 dead. Saturday night it hit 2000. Might be something to be concerned about. This is my take too. I started watching the #s when they said infection rates and/or death toll would double every 4 days. We were at 200 dead then. That has since changed to roughly every 3 days. Most here can do the math... Are you predicting 4000 more dead in three days, and another 8000 more by this Saturday? I wasn't predicting anything, merely observing. You, however, are one of the reasons I began the last sentence with most...
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well if we keep doubling deaths every 4 days, we should all be gone by June. don't think so... Wow... I think I'll hold off doing my taxes until I find out whether I die or not. If I die I'll hold off a bit longer. rofl, good strategiary there! Damnit!!! I already payed mine! π¬ You must be getting a refund.
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I wasn't predicting anything, merely observing. So you throw hysterical bullshit out, then don't have the balls to back it up.
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As soon as we hit the inflection point on deaths, the number will be twice that.
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We don't know where or how far this pandemic will go. It may die out or it could be catastrophic. We do need to take precautions (as described in the CDC guidelines) and we may be able to slow or contain its spread.
The predictive models are all over the place and depend on the assumptions made; we do need to prepare for the worst. We knew it was possible that the virus might become a pandemic by January 1 and we lost over 2 months before the alarm bell rang. We need to do all we can now with precautions and research to reduce the severity of the pandemic.
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As soon as we hit the inflection point on deaths, the number will be twice that. We might be there already, the growth rate appears to be exponential.
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Faucci is a political animal who really doesn't know his azz from a hole in the ground & is badly out of touch with everyday reality & anything resembling hands on medicine.
Right now any number is a pure fantasy, high or low.
MM He graduated from Cornell Medical College first in his class. He's received quite a bit of recognition for his professional achievements. He is regularly receiving information from the finest immunologists and epidemologists in the world. His prediction of up to 200,000 fatalities is consistent with what other experts have said and continue to say. I'd much rather know the worst case scenario than have someone blow smoke up my ass. What are your qualifications? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Fauci#Background_and_education
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