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You guys can believe whatever you want, but I have friends and family who are docs and nurses in emergency rooms in California, Kansas and Missouri. They say it's bad. The doc in Kansas texted me yesterday and said he watched a perfectly healthy 43 year old woman die.
They all say they don't have enough personal protection equipment. A nurse friend in Missouri doesn't have ANY respirators, nor masks.
They've pointed out that if a significant percentage of the docs and nurses as sick at any given time, the death rate will go up.
I also have three (3) uncles from a tiny cotton farming community in the Texas panhandle. This community is so small it doesn't even have a stop light. All three went to a high school basketball tournament, and all three wound up on ventilators in the Amarillo ICU. Two of them are off those now, and they're trying to wean the third off, which is great news.
I think areas with a lot of population density, like NY and LA, will be hit hard, and so will chit holes like Detroit and New Orleans where there is a lot of poverty and poor education. A lot of New Yorkers are fleeing to Florida, which is full of old people (like Deflave), so I expect Florida will have a big hit.
There will also be small towns where everyone goes to one choke point - an only grocery store, or one sporting event - that have or will have huge infection rates.
100,000 dead? That's an average of 2,000 per state. If they don't have a vaccine for a year, I think that's more than possible.
Like I said, you can believe whatever you want, and you all get to place your bets now....
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Iirc, POTUS said up to 240,000.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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I don't doubt those those numbers at all. It is nice to see Trump listening to his appointed experts.
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Possible yes.
But the real question is not what's possible, but what probably.
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He said they EXPECT 100,000 to 240,000. Without social distancing its PROBALE up to ten times more.
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He said they EXPECT 100,000 to 240,000. Without social distancing its PROBALE maybe ten times more. Yes, but there a number of folks on another thread who seem to think it isn't remotely possible. I'm just relaying what I hear from actual ER personnel and events that have happened in my family.
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WGAF?
A never-ending discussion of what-ifs.
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He said they EXPECT 100,000 to 240,000. Without social distancing its PROBALE up to ten times more. Correct and they also said maybe less, if we keep the fûck away from each other for another month. Love you all.
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Yes, but what you reported is pretty sobering and pretty close to what Trump said.
Good thread. Thanks for it and the family info. Take care and GOD bless.
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All those dumbasses that went to Mardi Gras gonna live ???
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All those dumbasses that went to Mardi Gras gonna live ??? ...and Spring FÛCKING Break.
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A million would only be 1 out of every 330 Americans. More than that die every year and a bunch of that million would have died anyway from something. What percent of the total population is 1 million? A lot less than the almost 1% that die every year.
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Iirc, POTUS said up to 240,000. Fox News reports, "White House projects 100K to 240K coronavirus deaths as Trump tells US to prepare for ‘very painful two weeks’"Let's hope not, but hope is not a strategy. As I have said before, truly tragic. Regardless of politics, we are all in this together and should follow and support CDC, WHO, State and Local Health Officer guidelines. We have made extra charitable donations. The WHO and John's Hopkins are both accepting funds on their websites. Stay safe.
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A million would only be 1 out of every 330 Americans. More than that die every year and a bunch of that million would have died anyway from something. What percent of the total population is 1 million? A lot less than the almost 1% that die every year. JFC... *assuming you weren’t asking a question...
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A million would only be 1 out of every 330 Americans. More than that die every year and a bunch of that million would have died anyway from something. What percent of the total population is 1 million? A lot less than the almost 1% that die every year. But these are EXTRA deaths. Like TRUMP said, this is going to be rough. If you are older than 50, the danger is probably 10 x that of folks in their 20s. Pretty sobering to me, having been out hunting coyotes most of the day in the beautiful rain fueled spring green desert.
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Iirc, POTUS said up to 240,000. Fox News reports, "White House projects 100K to 240K coronavirus deaths as Trump tells US to prepare for ‘very painful two weeks’"Let's hope not, but hope is not a strategy. As I have said before, truly tragic. Regardless of politics, we are all in this together and should follow and support CDC, WHO, State and Local Health Officer guidelines. We have made extra charitable donations. The WHO and John's Hopkins are both accepting funds on their websites. Stay safe. Just watch the briefing for yourself... I’m doing it right now with a couple bottles of Rioja. Let me know if you need the link.
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All those dumbasses that went to Mardi Gras gonna live ??? So what guidance did they have prior to chasing Mardi Gras?
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A million would only be 1 out of every 330 Americans. More than that die every year and a bunch of that million would have died anyway from something. What percent of the total population is 1 million? A lot less than the almost 1% that die every year. But these are EXTRA deaths. Like TRUMP said, this is going to be rough. If you are older than 50, the danger is probably 10 x that of folks in their 20s. Pretty sobering to me, having been out hunting coyotes most of the day in the beautiful rain fueled spring green desert. Jag, Stay away from people. Especially people who like being around people, wash your hands and don’t touch your face. Coyote hunting is the best place to be. You’ve read the literature. We all need to do this together, separately.
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WGAF? Certainly not Campfire members! I mean none of them are male, over 50, over weight, diabetic, A-fib, smokers or have asthma. Yes, none of those people should GAF....
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Yes, please. Link useful. Thank you.
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