Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire "The National Guard is not the Military" NYC Mayor De Blasio

So...if the National Guard isn't military, does that mean "civilians" can now have tanks, artillery, and machine guns?

Technically he is correct. The military is under the control of the federal govt but the NG falls under the control of the govs of the individual states. The feds cannot order the guard into action in any state since only the gov has that authority. That is exactly what happened in New Orleans during Katrina. Bush suggested LA send out the NG but the gov of LA refused to issue the orders.

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You're confusing title 32 & 10 orders with military service. The National Guard is definitely (almost half the Army) military.

When the POTUS issues title 10 orders to a state guard, the governor can not say no. The guard can not perform police functions in the US under title 10 orders. Title 32 orders are issued by the states.

But the President has not issued such orders and until he does the NG is basically functioning as state militia. I spent a little over 25 years in the military. I do know how the system works. Until the President nationalizes and mobilizes the NG it belongs to the govs of the individual states. Like I noted, as of right now, DeBlasio is technically correct. That can be changed of course by the President at any time.

NG is definitely military, as per the DOD Joint Chiefs web site. During the peak of the WOT over 60% of fighting troops (non-REMF) were NG. While on Title 32 the Governors may call up troops for domestic uses. How does that remotely mean they aren't part of the DOD? 99% plus of their funding is DOD, big Army / AF do all the validations. Very few states have anything to do with them until a hurricane hits.

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