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And I wouldn't feel bad about 1-1/2" groups, using factory ammo in a relatively lightweight rifle in 7mm Mag.
I'd happily take a lightweight hunting rifle that could group 1-1/2" repeatedly, to the correct POA. Either several 3-shot groups to create a composite group (one target on top of another, on top of another, and so on) or an 8-10 shot group. Either, one shooting session or several. But the groups need to be centered on the target.
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Still waiting for my non bedded 1999 Tikka 695 7Mag to "loosen up". My T 3 Lite SS 270 bought in 2003 -- Very new production -- I'm still waiting too. Jerry
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Still waiting for my non bedded 1999 Tikka 695 7Mag to "loosen up". My T 3 Lite SS 270 bought in 2003 -- Very new production -- I'm still waiting too. Jerry Im still waiting for you guys to post your entries in the moa all day long challenge here too, but that will likely never happen. Like i said, they wont loosen up, if you only shoot a box/year. So, you guys can either put up or shut the fu ck up. Whats it going to be?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I took 1/2 the day off, does this work? If they just made paper that went “ping”
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Im still waiting for you guys to post your entries in the moa all day long challenge here too, but that will likely never happen.
Like i said, they wont loosen up, if you only shoot a box/year. So, you guys can either put up or shut the fu ck up. Whats it going to be?
The Sun will turn into Ice Cream before I WASTE that kind of ammo. Secondly, YOU don't have ANY idea of how much or often I shoot! ! In SEVENTEEN years it has seen HUNDREDS of rounds. YOU can't tell ME or anyone ELSE to Shut UP ! You are now DOOFUS II [IGNORE] Jerry
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I have two older 1975-1978 M65 Tikkas in 30-06 -- wood stocks and blue steel. I'm not oging to say they shoot sub MOA all day long, for two reasons. 1.) I've never shot one all day long, and 2.) I cannot shoot sub MOA all day long on any random day.
On a good average day, mine will shoot a little over an inch to an inch and a half from a hunting type rest with hunting grade bullets. On my better days, I have shot groups as tight as 0.625" with premium bullets and handloads. My favourite hunting bullet is a Barnes TSX 168 grain. That one is pretty consistently between 0.750" to an inch WHEN I DO MY PART. The triggers came from the factory at 3.25 pounds which I have not adjusted. They barely move and break cleanly every time. Each one of them has digested 100 rounds a year for 40 years. The stocks are free floated to the front of the recoil lug, and they don't jiggle or wiggle.
My T3 is a synthetic stainless in 6.5 Swede. Now there is a rifle. My worst group has been 2" at a hundred yards -- not the rifle's fault. Two days later with no adjustments it put 3 shots into 9/16" at 100, and routinely keeps most groups under an inch when I'm on my game. Any hunting rifle, and mine are all hunting rifles, that consistently puts 3 shots from a hunting type rest in the inch to inch and a half groups will fill freezers for years to come.
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Still waiting for my non bedded 1999 Tikka 695 7Mag to "loosen up". My T 3 Lite SS 270 bought in 2003 -- Very new production -- I'm still waiting too. Jerry Im still waiting for you guys to post your entries in the moa all day long challenge here too, but that will likely never happen. Like i said, they wont loosen up, if you only shoot a box/year. So, you guys can either put up or shut the fu ck up. Whats it going to be? Hello there paper queen. While you're busy running your mouth and "busting" paper, I've whacked dozens of hogs and about 25 whitetail does. Instead of wasting my time with your dumbasss game I think I'll continue to whack pigs with my "loose" Tikkas. BTW, you telling me to "shut the f*^% up" is laughable. It wouldn't take me 5 seconds to knock the taste out of your mouth.
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See you’ve been hitting the Thunderbird again. Find any pics of you and all your elk yet? [quote=jwall]Im still waiting for you guys to post your entries in the moa all day long challenge here too, but that will likely never happen. Like i said, they wont loosen up, if you only shoot a box/year. So, you guys can either put up or shut the fu ck up. Whats it going to be?
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Ok well, this thread has its course of attempting to be helpful.
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There is a “speed bump” about middle of forearm. Mine shoots so well I hate to fiddle with it. This, there are intentional contact patches on the plastic Tikka Lite and Superlite stocks. The Hunter and CTR stocks don't have these. I removed the bumps/patches from my Superlite, load workup seemed to get fussier after that, I'd just leave them next time around. Did you not read where my Hunter T3X has them? Nope, I was going off of what I'd seen on my T3 Hunter, it didn't have speed bumps or any sign that they'd been removed, but I bought it used and don't know how old it was. My CTR didn't either, but Lite and Superlite did. Do you have a pictures of the speed bumps on your stock that you can post? They are formed into the plastic stocks, I'd be interested to see how they show up on the new wood stocks.
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That's one reason I probably won't mess with it. Although it doesn't group spectacularly, it seems to hold that first shot well from session to session.
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That's one reason I probably won't mess with it. Although it doesn't group spectacularly, it seems to hold that first shot well from session to session. The same with my T3 Lite SS 270 bought in 2003 shortly after they were available. Don’t know about free float.... Don’t care. The ONLY time I’ve had to adjust the scope was in 2012 or 2013 AFTER I and the Rifle took a hard fall. Bounced to be exact. It not only holds zero but still groups 1” or less when I’m calm & not rushed. I also have a T 3X in 7 RM but just got it in 2017. Jerry
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Do you have access to Reloader 26, and 162 gr Hornady ELD-X?
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Regarding the original question, my CTR was fully floated. My 270 stainless light was not, A 708, then the seven rem mag, then a 708 superlite, then another 708 were all not floated.
I floated them all. It only took a few minutes with the Dremel wheel. I really think it helped especially when shooting from field positions or on different rests.
Years ago after reading about the imprints on the lug I pulled the rifles I had at the time to check. The seven rem mag had faint impressions. They were too fine for me to measure it with my calipers. The gun shot so well I didn’t worry about it.
One thing that I have found with consistency is when I reassemble the rifles I stand them on their butt and give them a smack. Then I tighten the front screw to about 25 pounds then I do the back screw till about 15, then the front to 35 inCh the back to 35. I have not had any problems with them walking or opening up. I have not shot the MOA challenge with them I suppose I could when the Ranges reopen. I am down to two 708s right The older one has a high round count and it’s still doing fine.
Regarding the post where @ 7/rem mag will not shoot with factory ammo as well as wanted, maybe try another brand and weight? Mine loved 162 Amax and ELD over each 1000 at 2950 and mag length
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IDMilton - I tried Winchester, Remington-Peters, and Federal. Since I knew my handloads would do better, I abandoned the factory ammo after those three. BTW, those were 3 shot groups. Tikka says their rifles will shoot 5 shot groups an inch or under, right? Guaranteed! But as many others have pointed out, when you have one that doesn't, there's no procedure for getting another one from them. I'll stick with X-bolts and Vanguards, both of which are more accurate than Tikka's IME.
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