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Got into 1 of these scopes awhile back. Just curious how others use this reticle and what they use as their primary aiming point? MB
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I have a couple of old K3s with PCH reticles.
I use the top of the post as the the aim point. I use the cross-hair to help lead a moving target.
They were good scopes in their day, but their day is long past.
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I got started with scopes with a post and crosshair. I had to remind myself to use the top of the post, not the intersection of the crosswire as an aiming point. When I got to the point where I looked at it like I would the front sight on an iron sighted rifle, I had no more trouble with it. They show up very well in poor light, BTW. When B&L came out with their tapered crosshair, I never went back. Currently my favorite reticle is the Leupold Heavy Duplex. The Post & Duplex is a close second. E
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Have one on a savage 99, aiming point is the top of the post
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Had a V7 with it. Me no likey.
Reg duplex or CPC preferred.
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I had the 2 1/2 power model, but I prefer a duplex reticle.
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PCH reticles were very popular in New England back in the 1960's.
Most of the people who I hunted with back then had a low magnification Redfield or Weaver with a PCH reticle on their lever, pump, or semi-auto hunting rifles. One of the first two scopes that I got was a K3 with a PCH reticle that was installed on a Ruger 44 International. Fifty plus years ago it was a good choice for the sort of still-hunting that rifle was bought for. The other rifle that I got at the same time was a Remington 660 in 6MM Rem with a 2-7x Weaver with a duplex reticle. I still have those rifles and the scopes. Today the K3 is installed on a 20 gauge Remington 870 rifled slug gun that has a cantilever scope mount.
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I have at least one, maybe two. I don't recall hunting with one, but I like the reticle. I would prefer a 4X or 6X, however. I've always used the very tip of the post for targets and just completely disregard the crosswire, though with a little experimentation the crosswire could probably be useful as an aiming point for longer distances.
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PCH reticles were very popular in New England back in the 1960's.
Most of the people who I hunted with back then had a low magnification Redfield or Weaver with a PCH reticle on their lever, pump, or semi-auto hunting rifles. One of the first two scopes that I got was a K3 with a PCH reticle that was installed on a Ruger 44 International. Fifty plus years ago it was a good choice for the sort of still-hunting that rifle was bought for. The other rifle that I got at the same time was a Remington 660 in 6MM Rem with a 2-7x Weaver with a duplex reticle. I still have those rifles and the scopes. Today the K3 is installed on a 20 gauge Remington 870 rifled slug gun that has a cantilever scope mount. Yessir. I have one on my 7600 carbine. That little .35 remains my go-to for tracking/stillhunting. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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I have a 2.5 on a Ruger 44 carbine. It was on it when I bought the gun 30 years ago. Love the reticle though the glass coatings are poor compared to what’s available today. Highly recommend the reticle
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I have a few of them. Mostly 2.5 and 3x Weavers but also have a Redfield 2 3/4x PCH on my 400 Whelen. I really like the reticle. Fast to acquire and accurate enough for longer shots than one would think. If you have old PCH scopes you don't like please send them to me for disposal.
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I would be willing to wager a good chunk of money ( or maybe something even more valuable these days-toilet paper) that a 3x scope, with a post reticle will meet the needs of well over 90% of hunters..
The #1 reticle is very popular in Europe ( heavy lower vertical post with heavy horizontal posts ). A "post and cross hair" is a variation of the #1 ( or visa versa), so why wouldn't it be effective?
I like the post reticle for hunting. I have a Lyman All-American 2.5x PermaCenter scope with a post and crosshair on my Marlin 1894 44 mag. It meets (meats?) or exceeds my hunting needs. To me, a post reticle looks like a magnified front sight. Put it on the place you want to hit, and pull the trigger. Job done. Easily effective to 300 yards for big game. How many of use shoot further than that when hunting?
The Lyman's post is 4 moa over the horizontal wire. I sight it in so the top of the post is dead on for 75 yards. The intersection 4 moa lower on the post is dead on for 125 yards. I could set the post's top for 100 yards (and then the intersection is set for 150 yards); but, deer hunting in the Maine woods, 75 yards is a more realistic "pragmatic long " shot.
Somehow we get away from simple and effective devices in a quest for something we view as an improvement ( real or perceived). One of these days, someone will come to their senses and realize a fixed 2.5, 3x , 4x or 6x with a standard crosshair reticle works very well too.
KISS method applies here.
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I been using the top of the post as well , will figure out how high that makes me when using the intersection of post and crosshair. Seems simple enough. MB
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One of these days, someone will come to their senses and realize a fixed 2.5, 3x , 4x or 6x with a standard crosshair reticle works very well too.
KISS method applies here.
Yep. And all the scope manufacturers will be hyping them as “new and revolutionary” and they’ll sell like hot cakes.😁
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