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Braking chain of command or just letting the public know what's going on onboard the ship.

Phil

Just pumping the brakes.

PS. The link doesn’t work.

Hey , are those hospital ships still in dry dock idiot?

No fool, they finally made it the less than hundred mile voyage, but still sitting idle.

Phil

GFY . They are in place , not waiting 4 weeks like you originally posted you lying POS who could not even own up to your stupid post.

The challenge is leadership. How would the captain have acted in combat with casualties on board?

Captain Unlikely to Be Punished over Candid
Coronavirus Letter, Navy Leaders Say

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Capt. Brett Crozier, commanding officer of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, addresses local news media
at Naval Air Station North Island, San Diego, Jan. 17, 2020


1 Apr 2020
Military.com | By Gina Harkins

The Navy's top leaders aren't thrilled that a four-page letter from a ship's captain pleading for help with a novel coronavirus outbreak was leaked to the media this week, but they said they need commanding officers speaking out about challenges during the unprecedented pandemic.

Capt. Brett Crozier, commanding officer of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt, was within his rights to raise concerns with his chain of command about a troubling situation on his ship, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday said Wednesday.

In his letter, obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle, which posted it on its website this week, Crozier made an urgent plea to evacuate his crew after cases of COVID-19, the illness caused by the coronavirus, rapidly spread onboard his carrier.

"I don't know who leaked the letter to the media -- that would be something that would violate the principles of good order if he were responsible for that, but I don't know that," Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly told reporters. "The fact that he wrote the letter of his to his chain of command to express his concerns would absolutely not result in any type of retaliation."

Related: 'Sailors Do Not Need to Die': Carrier Captain Pleads for Help as Virus Cases Surge

Crozier, in his letter, said the Navy was risking the trust it has built with sailors if more wasn't done to look out for the crew's health on the Roosevelt. The aircraft carrier was operating in the Asia-Pacific region when sailors began testing positive for COVID-19 after the ship made a port call in Vietnam in early March.

Modly hit back against the idea that the Navy isn't looking out for its personnel, calling it "not the truth."

"It's disappointing to have him say that," Modly said. "We've been working very, very hard with the ship, with the command structure, to ensure that that's exactly what we're doing. It's our priority. We need the sailors to be safe, we need them to be healthy, and we need that ship to be operational.

"We're doing everything we can," he added.

The Roosevelt is now in Guam. Modly said 2,700 crew members are being evacuated off the ship. About a quarter of the crew has been tested for the illness so far, and 93 members were positive.

Most of those crew members showed symptoms, Modly said, but seven did not. Testing will continue, he added.

The Navy's plan to leave about 1,100 crew members on the ship falls short of Crozier's request to evacuate all but 10% while it was sanitized. Modly and Gilday defended the decision to leave more crew members aboard.

"This ship has weapons on it, it has munitions on it, it has expensive aircraft, it has a nuclear power plant," Modly said. "It requires a certain number of people on that ship to maintain the safety and security of the ship."

Gilday said Crozier's letter pointed to a breakdown in communications between the captain and his chain of command. Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Russell Smith said the captain should have first communicated with families through the command's ombudsman so panicked family members didn't read about the situation on the carrier in media reports.

Ultimately though, Gilday added, Crozier is responsible for the safety of his crew.

"That's an extraordinary responsibility and ... he takes it very seriously," Gilday said. "So if he has a difference of approach and he thinks he has a better way to do it, and if he doesn't feel that we're acting at the speed of urgency, then absolutely we need to know about that and we need to adjust."

Dunno, but he had to have been a sharp guy, how many Navy guys get to Captain an air craft carrier?

Also had to know going public would be a career-ending move.

Perhaps he acted to best ensure the welfare of the people on that ship, personal cost be damned.

I'm thinking the captain fell on his sword to protect his men. It looks like a no win situation for the guy.

Carrier Commanding Officer Fired Over Plea for
Resources that Went Public

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Capt. Brett Crozier, commanding officer of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71), addresses the crew
on the 1MC, Jan. 17, 2020.

2 Apr 2020
Military.com | By Gina Harkins

Twenty-four hours after the Navy's top leaders said they need commanding officers to be candid about problems, the captain of a coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier who pleaded for help has been relieved of command.

Capt. Brett Crozier, who commanded the carrier Theodore Roosevelt, was removed from his job after a letter he wrote about the situation on his ship was sent to people outside his chain of command, Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said.

"The responsibility for this decision rests with me," Modly said. "I expect no congratulations for it and it gives me no pleasure in making it. Captain Crozier is an honorable man who, despite this uncharacteristic lapse of judgment, has dedicated himself throughout a lifetime of incredible service to our nation, and he should be proud of that."

Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday said he supported Modly's decision.

The pair discussed Crozier's letter at length with reporters Wednesday and said, while disappointed it leaked to the press, that it was not inappropriate for the captain to raise concerns about the situation on his ship with his chain of command.

"I don't know who leaked the letter to the media -- that would be something that would violate the principles of good order if he were responsible for that, but I don't know that," Modly said Wednesday.

On Thursday, Modly said he still didn't know whether Crozier leaked the letter to his hometown newspaper, the San Francisco Chronicle.

But sending it to anyone outside the chain of command, "who had been moving and adjusting as rapidly as possible to get him the help he needed," undermined the process, Modly said.

"For these reasons, I lost confidence in his ability to continue to lead that worship as it fights through this virus to get the crew healthy," he added.

Whomever leaked Crozier's letter announced to our enemies foreign and domestic that the Theodore Roosevelt was crippled and ripe for the taking.

He deserved to be fired for leaking that letter to his home town newspaper - The San Francisco Chronicle.

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Careful who you're calling a POS! Calling the OP a POS is a huge insult to the rest of the POS's on the 'fire'!

This. Some dumbasses are unable to connect the dots. Most grown liebs will never be able to think enough to be able to figure things out. They never had to learn to try and figure things out. They memorized what the system fed them and stupidly think conservatives were unable to memorized the crap they were fed.

They followed the crap they were fed in school and then college and then the MSM became their mother.

Gayghost and la Roy and Sickermore and Jell0 and djs and SAC are prime examples. They were dumb and only had time to memorize the crap they were fed. They didnt have time to look around and evaluate the opposite side of the coin or they were dullards who had no interest in doing so.

Why should they have to look around and think, didnt their handlers and the MSM make the big bucks for having done it for them?

Hey, look at all the .Gov PSAs. Isnt that proof that their handlers have their best interests at heart?

If you read the letter, that's actually the opposite of what it says.

The story said they didn't know who leaked the letter. Do you have some inside information?
Link?

I read the letter and my point stands. His ship is weakened and he made that fact public.

I don't know who leaked it. Would Crozier's command leak something like this? If they did more heads should roll.

Someone else in higher command evidently though he didnt follow required chain of command protocol.

Maybe that's why Milley was on TV yesterday letting the enemy we were locked and loaded.

Wouldn't it be so totally awesome if all commanders up and down the military chain of command in times of National Emergency went public with everything they "felt" was wrong with decisions and policies they might disagree with.

I mean heck we might never have fire bombed or dropped a nuke on Japan. Should have just dropped leaflets telling them to pretty please surrender.