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3M has always had friends in high places and they're one of the companies that helped convince the FCC to break up the Bell System. The break up wasn't because ATT was a monopoly but because companies like 3m wanted a piece of the pie.

I worked for ATT for 30 years (retired 1991) and the last job I had before I retired was in the outside plant construction department. One of my responsibilities was to order all the material for each project. We used mostly ATT equipment because of the high quality and longevity of everything they made. About 5 years after the Bell System was broken up we got an edict from top management to start using 3M equipment instead of ATT (if 3m made it). Most of the 3M equipment made was cheap junk made of thin sheet metal assembled with sheet metal screws and only slightly cheaper than ATT. The ATT equipment was mad of heavy gauge sheet metal that was welded. I started getting complaints from the construction and maintenance dept. about 3M's products.

We had big material distribution facility in Dallas that had most of what we needed. I ordered a big piece of equipment from Dallas and specified ATT but when it showed up it was 3M's version of this equipment I called the manager in Dallas and he told that even though the ATT equipment was listed as being available they didn't have any in stock and weren't allowed to order any ATT equipment. I found out that I could order this equipment straight from the ATT factory so I did. The construction people were real happy with it but somebody told the big boss that I had ordered direct from ATT and he almost fired me.

So if the government wants something you have, we’re ok with their forcing you to sell it to them at below market rate?

Oh.

Is that what happened?

I didn't think so.

But in an age where large corporations can cancel entire product lines because the American flag on tennis shoes is thought to be "racist" and offensive by a company spokesman that started the whole "Kneel during the Natl Anthem movement"...

It's not surprising some companies don't put America First.

Capitalism that can switch to socialism on demand? Interesting.

OP’s cut and paste said foreigners were high bidder. If your not high bidder then your aren’t offering market rate. I’d like to think that If I was 3M I’d have kept them here, but I don’t think that the government should be allowed to take anything without paying the going rate

I sure didn't see where they were forced to sell anything to anybody either.


Why are we even having this argument?

I'm sure our own folks here at home would have matched any price being offered for critically needed medical supplies.

Or maybe 3M shouldn't have only been interested in taking the high bid in a crisis?

Here's what needs to happen. Behind closed doors, Mike Roman is made "untouchable". Remove him from any/all corporate and non-profit boards upon which he sits. Private and exclusive clubs quietly non-renew his memberships. Golf clubs, ski resorts, etc ,etc, etc. Put him on the "No-Fly" list.

If he wants to prioritize Latin America, he can go run the business unit of some company down there, but, he cannot be allowed to run the premier division of a US based company.

He needs to be treated like Winthorpe at the Tennis Club from Trading Places.

It has been pointed out the pulp they make the masks comes from Canada.

The trouble with full market value is that some people have enough money to control a product worldwide. Should they determine fair market value? Should the government charge fair market value for the vaccination for covid 19? Who sets that price? Use your heads folks. Ed k

To take your point further, some country comes in, outbids all of the food we eat, it’s ok with you that it all gets overseas? There’s no differentiation between most things and some core truly important things in your eyes?

They are in business to sell!!
Why is this a surprise>??

That's a very good point.

I'd be in favor of revoking their US citizenship. They've been raping us and selling us down the river for years so f.uck 'em. They don't deserve to be citizens of this country anymore.

“we have produced millions of respirators and now we have arranged to import more masks from China. We have an agreement to allow us to export ten million additional masks a month out of China”…



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Does anyone realize the specialized fine fiber that makes the masks N-95 is made in Canada, one of the countries you are talking about stopping the export to.

Nobody in the US is going to deny Canada a single mask/respirator.

I wish Maria would’ve made Mr. Roman explain the situation FL had.

Yeah, well...I dunno...trudeau comes to mind.



But then, I am not a Yank.

Did you see the executive of 3M spew that humanitarian horse [bleep]? Time to boycott 3M.

All that needs to be done is for Trump to tell the American folks the truth and they will take care of 3M.