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I think the medical industry is already destroyed. Hospitals across the country have been empty for month. All electives, and by electives, I mean anything that isn’t going to kill you today, have been delayed. The floors have been emptied out and everything is ready for this rush if Covid patients.

Except the rush hasn’t materialized and even if it did, it doesn’t pay the bills. Hospitals are laying off people right and left. Another month of this and they are going to start shutting doors. And of course when that happens, they’ll need bailouts. And of course, bailouts come with strings. And presto, you’ve got socialized medicine practically overnight.

In my experience with corona viruses in livestock it is a secondary pathogen brought on by stress. And once you alleviate the primary stressors the corona virus is not an issue.

So I stand by my Therom that this corona pathogen will learn to live with its new host over time and become a minor pathogen. But I have been wrong before......I just hope not this time.

These mitigations themselves are not saving lives ; instead, it is what we do with the time that gives us an opportunity to improve the outcome of the epidemic.

In my experience with corona viruses in livestock it is a secondary pathogen brought on by stress. And once you alleviate the primary stressors the corona virus is not an issue.

So I stand by my Therom that this corona pathogen will learn to live with its new host over time and become a minor pathogen. But I have been wrong before......I just hope not this time.

The attack will cause less and less hemoglobin that can carry oxygen and carbon dioxide. The lung cells have extremely intense poisoning and inflammatory due to the inability to exchange carbon dioxide and oxygen frequently, which eventually results in ground-glass-like lung images.

Because the novel coronavirus is dependent on porphyrins, it may originate from an ancient virus.

What sane person with money, do you people think is going to be willing to stand a business up after this bomb goes off with idiots in office like this

This video should explain to anyone that China made it.

youtube]https://youtu.be/NRzddVgSyho

If it had been an accidental mutation, they would have quickly let the world in on their sectet.

Elementary.

In a scathing analysis published March 29 on Medium, “A Call to Honesty in Pandemic Modeling,” Pegden and Chikina assert that many of the popular models being cited by national media and President Trump are misleading. Pegden is an associate professor of mathematics at Carnegie Mellon University and Chikina is an assistant professor of molecular biology at the University of Pittsburgh; they are a married couple.

“The idea that normal life can resume in two to three months without having a huge wave in infections — there is just no science behind that,” Pegden said in a Tribune-Review interview.

Another couple months of this, you won’t have to worry about ERs being overwhelmed. The doors will be shut. You won’t have to worry about if you should break quarantine to go to Wal-Mart because the credit card companies will have turned off the cards when they don’t get their payments. The restaurants still doing takeout will be closed.

We’ve never done anything like this. And I guess we can do it for a few weeks or a month, after that? Without massive government intervention to the point of nationalizing things like medicine and food production and distribution, I don’t see how we keep it up.

JoeBob,
Thanks for your post, you are saying what I am thinking and obviously doing a better job of it than me.....

I have been lumped in with Elkslayer and Fubarski over this...

I did back in the thread 2 days ago. This scenario is possible. Elkslayer has good points on this. Fauci was questioned about the second spike yesterday and all of a sudden he says now you can't always rely on the models. Been touting his models until then.

What is a greater worry to you? CV-19 or Economy? [Re: RAS]#1473784404/03/20
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What is a greater worry to you? CV-19 or Economy?
Cv-19 is my main concern. Because it, or more precisely the temporary measures to contain it, being forced upon society will do great damage to the economy.
The duration of the containment efforts does not matter, if transmission rates return to normal when they end, and mortality rates have not improved. This is simply because as long as a large majority of the population remains uninfected, lifting containment measures will lead to an epidemic almost as large as would happen without having mitigations in place at all. Basically the virus needs to 'wash over' the populace. Then antigens will be formed in most. By implementing social distancing and self-quarantine they are not allowing this to happen. When you lift these measures you are going to see a natural spike in infections again and the same amount of people that will die will equal the the number of people that would have died with no mitigations in place. The one thing the mitigations does is buy you some time to possibly upgrade the hospital capabilities.
These mitigations themselves are not saving lives ; instead, it is what we do with the time that gives us an opportunity to improve the outcome of the epidemic.

I'm sure the pushback you're seeing would dissipate in a flash if folks were aware of your medical background.
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Here, how's this? This ought to keep the trolls talking for months, being these closet democrat fake conservatives on here hate Christians:

I AM the Messiah.

These people trolling me here, I want them to keep trolling me, because I know there are some great intelligent Americans on this site, and I want these trolls to continue to make complete asinine statements, and completely humiliate themselves, so all the intelligent people here can have some great laughs, because you all damn well know, there are many on the internet who just read and never post, and you can bet your last dollar, many are laughing at these fools.

Every single post I make on the internet is 100% truthful and supported with hard evidence when needed, and I 100% know intelligent people here recognize it as such, understand it, and know the level I write at is not from a troll in a basement, especially when I step it up a few notches to write serious on certain topics, regardless of what a troll states.

I'm not getting paid here for work, so these idiot trolls, and the laughter they bring to you guys and me is well enjoyed, almost as good as watching Red Skeleton or Johnny back in the day......har....har.....har.

By the way, I posted on lung capacity on docs thread, page 7. Funny how these hypocrite trolls don't have the balls to troll me on doc's thread, but they trash everyone else's threads. That tells you all you need to know about these LOW I.Q. idiots.

Just look at this clown JGRaider, yapping about, "Why anyone doesn't have this Elkslayer loser on ignore is beyond me" when he obviously does not. Now, is that not making a complete fool out of yourself or what. See the laughter I bring for you guys to enjoy? har....har.....har.

JGR accuses me of "stirring up controversy" when I've been writing good info in this thread. Yep, that's straight out of COMMIE Saul Alinsky's book, for everyone to see...."lie and keep repeating the lie until the lie becomes the truth", and JGRaider's lies are as big as the deserts of West TEXAS. I guess he's one of those ole blue dog democrats who hasn't figured out the democrat party is the communist party.

I give his post a 89 I.Q. rating.

Make that 85.