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Do not buy from any country that doesn't require decent wages and safety for workers and enforce that strictly. Suddenly American manufacturing would start back up, and things would cost more but we wouldn't be supporting exploitation that leaves workers in slave like lives and actually kills people in third world countries. Are cheap goods worth what we are enabling in poor countries? Worse than slavery is what we are supporting. At least a slave was valued as property. Actually, China is well on the way to creating a middle class with all of the workers that are in the New Economic Zone. That’s fact.
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What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Subtract from? Hell no. What we owe them is a small fraction of what the cost will be of this $hit.
Cut them off, erase the debt, zero trade, zero travel. Tell every country to do the same.
They like watching countries collapse so much they might as well study it up close. That would almost guarantee war. China would have nothing to lose. They would have high unemployment, less access to resources, and a huge population of single males due to the one child policy. Add in the loss of face and China would feel forced to act, much like Japan did when we cut off steel and oil exports to them in 1941. THIS!!!!!!!
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Couple of nukes= fried rice
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Couple of nukes= fried rice You think that they only fly in one direction ?
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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I've always tried to buy American or products from western countries [tried]. Commented in the backpacking subforum quite a while back about buying an American made top quality bag someone? pm/d me about they could spend their money wherever they wanted . Commented on Trapperman about the BS of Duke Traps copying the Minnesota Brand MB550/650 then having them made by slaves in chinawan - members there said they LOVE the trap - nothing but greedy cheapskates who care nothing about the welfare of their neighbors . Good Morning Bruce !!!  Hello, you old codger.  It's nearly impossible to buy much that's not made in China, Taiwan, Indonesia, India...and so on. I was just out surveying a worn out trailer jack on my boat trailer to see what size it was. It's a Fulton jack...Made in China. I can't find one that isn't. 
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Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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Government regulation is one of the things that has driven production to other countries. Until the regulations are relaxed companies will still produce things outside the US.
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Lower minimum wage to $2hr?
Bust the unions up?
Manufacture [bleep] at home? Which one are you? ![[Linked Image from michaelcaporale.files.wordpress.com]](https://michaelcaporale.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/trolls1.jpg)
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Do not buy from any country that doesn't require decent wages and safety for workers and enforce that strictly. Suddenly American manufacturing would start back up, and things would cost more but we wouldn't be supporting exploitation that leaves workers in slave like lives and actually kills people in third world countries. Are cheap goods worth what we are enabling in poor countries? Worse than slavery is what we are supporting. At least a slave was valued as property. If we stopped buying the the goods made by these people, how many would starve to death as a result?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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It wasn't the Chinese that sent all of America's manufacturing to China.
Anybody that wants to point their finger at how America got in the condition it's in needs to point it at D.C.
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,...and that's why there won't be anything done about it.
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Lower minimum wage to $2hr?
Bust the unions up?
Manufacture [bleep] at home? Which one are you? That’s funny.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Lower minimum wage to $2hr?
Bust the unions up?
Manufacture [bleep] at home? That just increases the flood of illegals from Central America
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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One trillion and half the real estate on the west coast.
Why we let Chinese nationals buy up property out here is beyond me.
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
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The problem with that is, 30 minutes later you want to screw them again. Well, yea: ![[Linked Image from bestasianwomen.com]](https://bestasianwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/asia6.jpg)
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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We do not need communist going to our schools. We do not need communist working in our companies. We should not buy items made by any communist country or company. We do not need any communist in our city, local, or federal government. We do not need any communist in our military or military training schools. We just do not need communist anything in America. If communist are here then they need to be ran out of the country. Or eliminated.The only true way to get rid of a cancer is to kill it.
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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We do not need communist going to our schools. We do not need communist working in our companies. We should not buy items made by any communist country or company. We do not need any communist in our city, local, or federal government. We do not need any communist in our military or military training schools. We just do not need communist anything in America. If communist are here then they need to be ran out of the country. Or eliminated.The only true way to get rid of a cancer is to kill it. 1.4 Billion people in China. What's your plan?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Do not buy from any country that doesn't require decent wages and safety for workers and enforce that strictly. Suddenly American manufacturing would start back up, and things would cost more but we wouldn't be supporting exploitation that leaves workers in slave like lives and actually kills people in third world countries. Are cheap goods worth what we are enabling in poor countries? Worse than slavery is what we are supporting. At least a slave was valued as property. If we stopped buying the the goods made by these people, how many would starve to death as a result? That is not my problem. But starving people get aggressive and violent and tend to kill other people who have food. That could well be our problem
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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