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I do not own one and I never have, but I have made about 9 of them for customers. All have given me glowing reports from their success stories and everyone I know that uses one seems to love it. Deer elk moose and even a handful of pronghorns have all fallen to the guns I made and the men who own them seem to disagree with the idea it's only good for close range and timber hunting.

I have given some thought to making myself an AR10 upper in that caliber for the fun of it.

This is the route I took. Re-barreled a Kimber 84M to 338 Fed with a slightly heavier taper (Lilja 84M Mod taper). It shoots 210 Partitions sub MOA at a shade over 2600. I'd pontificate its good to 400 with that combo/speed. It also likes 225 gr Partitions at 2450. I put a NF SHV on top in Talley rings. It weighs a shade less than 7lbs and is very shootable. I really like the gun and cartridge combo. Thought about adding a 358 Win as a stable mate but don't really see the need.

I may end up converting a heavy Savage 260 to a bit lighter, shorter 338 Fed. Would be perfect for the whitetail hunting I do here in IN as I can't shoot more than about 275yds on my property. Would hopefully start/stop with the 200gr BT.

Then again, the 260 works very well for that as well...

Sample of one deer down but blood trail of 0". DRT!

Mostly five steps at the most after ventilating them with 200 gr cup and core Remington bullets. I have used the single shot pistol, 99 brush gun, and yet to blood 760 rebore and BLR rebore. I have used their predecessor but not on deer yet. The 1905 Steyr M/S in 9mm X 56MM, 250 gr RN at moderate velocity. Whay is this a short range gun? The military has used the 308 to great effect for more years than lots of you guys have lived. Could it be the gun writers told you so and you believed them? I think a sniper quality gun could be used well in 358 Winchester. Might just defeat barriers better than the 308. Someone who has never shot either will now tell me it won't work. You Bryce Towsley reading slackers! Please, no one else should use this caliber. I isn't effective, no matter what. Just send all the 358 Winchesters you can buy to me. I might even pay freight charges, if I feel magnanimous that day. Be Well, Rustyzipper. Hey STARBOY, TRULY.

I'm on my second 358. Love it. With the 200 grain Hornady SP, starting at 2600 fps and 3,000 Ft lb, it still has 1,000 ft lb energy at 400 yards. The bullet still has power, but it starts to drop after 300.

My calculations - 1" high at 100, -3" at 200, -16" at 300, and -40" at 400.

I have owned a 350 RM, now two, since the late 60's. I've also owned a couple 35 Rem's, now one.

I like the 35 caliber. I also cast for several bullets for the 35 caliber. I'm thinking of adding another 35, maybe a Whelen.

My 358 was a Browning BLR, one of the early models. I played with the 200 gr. bullets for a few years but ended up running 250 grain Hornady RN's and Speer spitzers at 2200 fps. Always got exits and short to non existent trailings jobs. It was a bit buckish and way too shiny for my tastes so I sold it for a bit more than I paid for it planning to build a bolt gun on a short Remington or Marlin XS7 but instead I built a Whelen on a M98. I loaded the Whelen with the 250 gr. bullets at 2300 fps, never had an issue using this rifle for night hog hunting and I took some big ones with this rifle. I really like the 35 caliber and it is unfortunate they never really became popular here.

Built my Kimber Montana 358 Win with a 19" barrel to hunt pigs out here in the west and take back home to PA to hunt black bear and deer.

I can easily get 2650 fps with a 200 gr. T-TSX set 2" high at 100 yards it's 28 inch drop and running 1800 fps at 400.

There's still some good bullets for the 358 for anything anyone wants to do within 300 yards: A 200 Interlock or TTSX at 2700, a 225 Partition at 2550+, and a 250 at a shade over 2400. Not much you can't do with one of those. I do wish Hornady would come out with a 225 Interlock though.

M1, let's not forget: cheap pistol bullets too.

I load 158 grain tmj's I use in my 357 mag trail gun. Cheap offhand practice at 100-200 yds.

In a savage 99 or a blr (I like both equally), they are very trim and light weight. Anything other than a handy little 2.5 leupold, is overkill:

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Mainer- used to follow your posts ~10 years ago on Alaska Outdoors forums. Haven’t been on there in years since I moved away, but good to see you posting on here. I see you are still into freighter canoes, no better way to hunt moose IMO. 👍

I mention that, almost every time the discussion revolves around the .35 caliber cartridges. That makes the 35’s very universal! memtb

I built one off a Rem 700. Its been my favorite rifle of mine for a number of years! Mine shoots everything well. I prefer to use the 225 Nosler over everything else, but they all work. My next favorite is the Speer 250. My rifle really like a big load of 3031, I really like the 358 and out to 250-300 yards its very good.

How many deer or elk or animals have you killed beyond 300 yards? I would think the .358 is plenty good for all practical range shots.

I can see the usefulness of the .358 because I shoot a 9.3x62 and I can appreciate a little less recoil. But for shooting Nilgai out to 300 yards which is about the longest shots I'll get, it's the ticket. However most shots I've seen are about 100 yards. But the 270 grain Speer Hot Core Semi Spitzer is a hammer.

Look at 35cal.com Be Well, Rustyzipper.

Humm...the 358 shines in those situations where the following are not available:
275 Rigby
7x57
270
280
308
30/06
6.5 CM
7-08
7 RM
300 H&H
300 Win
Etc. !

There you go.

I can't think of any better round for Eastern Woods. There are many that will do the job, also, but if you like the .358, go for it. It's like a 35 Remington on steroids, and they ain't no slouch in the woods either. If you are shooting elk and deer at 400 yards, you might want to look at another round, but for practical purposes in woodland hunting, it will shine.

One of my mentors hunted almost exclusively with a model 70 featherweight 358. He loved to hunt elk in the timber and still hunted them much the way he still hunted whitetails. He only spoke of ever using one bullet for all his many years with the 358 and killed a lot of elk and deer. His preferred bullet was the 250 grain Speer. As was stated earlier, a 358 leaves a great blood trail though often not needed since the critters tend to fall over fairly soon after the shot. He always talked about wanting a 35 Whelen though he said he doubted it would do much better than his 358.

I built a 35 Whelen 18 years ago and have found the same performance to be the norm with 250 grain bullets. I shoot the Nosler Partition but have no doubt the Speer or Hornady 250 grain would do just as well. My 35 Whelen has accounted for three caribou and one moose. I'm sure had it been a 358 the end result would have been the same. They all died within a very short time, leaking lots of blood.