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So are you saying the results of the epileptic studies have all been faked ? That there is no benefits what so ever ?
I'm just asking....
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My take is if the damned stuff worked we wouldn't still be debating it. Its pain-relieving BS is a snake oil placebo The problem is, although it's harmless it's been on Schedule 1 until recently so no one could do proper studies on it.
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My take is if the damned stuff worked we wouldn't still be debating it. Its pain-relieving BS is a snake oil placebo The problem is, although it's harmless it's been on Schedule 1 until recently so no one could do proper studies on it. Does that include foreign studies too?
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"DMSO is also one of the most powerful anti-inflammatory chemical/drugs found to date. but only approved for animal use."
Thanks for all the information about DMSO. I wish I had known about it when I had tennis elbow for about 15 years. I would have used it because I'm an animal too. A cortisone shot in the elbow relieved the pain a little for about 2 weeks. I tried DMSO for painful joints in 3 different finger joints but it turned out the was caused by pain was caused by bone to bone contact in those worn out joints. The only solution was to fuse the joints or have them replaced with titainium/chrome implants. I had the last one (my trigger finger) replaced 3 years ago.
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I use a CBD cream that I buy at Big R farm store. Brand is Naturulz called Ugli Butter.There is a night and moring version.I can't use the morning version because it has Capsaciain (sp) in it and that keeps me awake.This stuff helps with my hands and shoulders. Doesn't seem to help with my knee that is really bad Also helps me get to sleep.Tried the and I didn't see any help
i have a number of issues, the lineing in my ankle/foot are gone, bone on bone. three or four out of place discs, spinal stenosis,etc. t rying to get some low grade opiod is really hard these day . friend of mine orders cbd products on a wholesale level out of a company in colorado. you can buy the stuff on amazon, but he said be aware that regardless of what they say the strength is, it varies on being formulated. having said that, i have found my thoracic fascile syndrome back is better when using it. when i start to get these pains in my arm, rubbing that cream in and ten minutes later the pain had decreased or gone. it also seems to help with restless leg syndrome too. i wasn't a believer in the stuff for a long time, but it seems to help me. i just checked the product, made from hemp, thc content is less than .3%
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Well, there has been a lot of laws changing in the last ten years or so. Many states have just flat down and out made recreational pot legal. Far more states have now decriminalized it. Just a few more years and enough mind poisoned old fu_cks will die off to help turn the vote around and it will be legal in every state in the nation. CV-19 will obviously help speed the process, maybe it's Gods way of saying something.... https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-state
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So are you saying the results of the epileptic studies have all been faked ? That there is no benefits what so ever ?
I'm just asking.... To repeat myself, there is no question the cannabinoids have legitimate pharmacology, the question is how does it fit into the complete treatment profile? ya think the doc is just drop whats been around for 20 years to hop on the new bandwagon.?
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Well, there has been a lot of laws changing in the last ten years or so. Many states have just flat down and out made recreational pot legal. Far more states have now decriminalized it. Just a few more years and enough mind poisoned old fu_cks will die off to help turn the vote around and it will be legal in every state in the nation. CV-19 will obviously help speed the process, maybe it's Gods way of saying something.... https://disa.com/map-of-marijuana-legality-by-stateWhat the states do or don't do doesn't matter ---- its the Feds. any pharmacy with Federal DEA lic. won't touch it, because of fear of being in violation of Federal law, thus loosing their Federal lic. any pharmacy or registered dispenser isn't appyling for FED DEA and other pharmacy related sales, only state. They only carry one product THC hope they get enough sales to cover overhead. far to much of the DEA budget tagged to be used for weed, which they will loose , if they change the law.
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I use a CBD cream that I buy at Big R farm store. Brand is Naturulz called Ugli Butter.There is a night and moring version.I can't use the morning version because it has Capsaciain (sp) in it and that keeps me awake.This stuff helps with my hands and shoulders. Doesn't seem to help with my knee that is really bad Also helps me get to sleep.Tried the and I didn't see any help
i have a number of issues, the lineing in my ankle/foot are gone, bone on bone. three or four out of place discs, spinal stenosis,etc. t rying to get some low grade opiod is really hard these day . friend of mine orders cbd products on a wholesale level out of a company in colorado. you can buy the stuff on amazon, but he said be aware that regardless of what they say the strength is, it varies on being formulated. having said that, i have found my thoracic fascile syndrome back is better when using it. when i start to get these pains in my arm, rubbing that cream in and ten minutes later the pain had decreased or gone. it also seems to help with restless leg syndrome too. i wasn't a believer in the stuff for a long time, but it seems to help me. i just checked the product, made from hemp, thc content is less than .3% there is help, look up compounding pharmacies in your area, call them, find a doc connected and get a Rx if not, enjoy your misery.
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My take is if the damned stuff worked we wouldn't still be debating it. Its pain-relieving BS is a snake oil placebo The problem is, although it's harmless it's been on Schedule 1 until recently so no one could do proper studies on it. Does that include foreign studies too? enough peer related review on NCBI, no need for foreign stuff.
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I was surprised Obama didn't touch that. Thought maybe he'd have done something on his way out the door. My personal gripe is more with the tax payers having to carry the incarceration tab. Just another big business prosecuting pot smokers and keeping them in jail.... Legalize it, tax it like alcohol and move on.................. Land of the Free?
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CBD is the greatest thing ever. Just like hemp is the greatest thing ever. Everything related to marijuana is the greatest thing everl! It's magical! Just ask the people who want it legal. Wrong. Flax is the greatest thing ever. Or at least at one time was the fad. How many people do you think we can get eating BLO and licking stocks?
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One thing I often hear is about how pot cures cancer.
The look on the average stoner's face when you remind them that Bob Marley died of cancer is classic.
I know I know - not really or connected but the average burn out smoker doesn't know. Not that all who partake are burned out stoners with bad hygiene...
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One thing I often hear is about how pot cures cancer.
The look on the average stoner's face when you remind them that Bob Marley died of cancer is classic.
I know I know - not really or connected but the average burn out smoker doesn't know. Not that all who partake are burned out stoners with bad hygiene... Never heard of it as a cure but as pain relief. Lung cancer runs high in regular smokers. Big surprise.
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My take is if the damned stuff worked we wouldn't still be debating it. Its pain-relieving BS is a snake oil placebo The problem is, although it's harmless it's been on Schedule 1 until recently so no one could do proper studies on it. Does that include foreign studies too? What do you think.
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One thing I often hear is about how pot cures cancer.
The look on the average stoner's face when you remind them that Bob Marley died of cancer is classic.
I know I know - not really or connected but the average burn out smoker doesn't know. Not that all who partake are burned out stoners with bad hygiene... There are laboratory studies indicating it may slow down or even kill prostate cancer cells. No human studies yet.
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hmmm what does the 4733 form say
do you use THC, or do you use CBD
rock and a hard spot, I guess,
unless they changed it. Unless there's a good reason to question one's answer and go through the machinations to prove they may have lied, who is going to know? Besides, CBD is a legal product sold through health and nutrition stores nationwide. Why would CBD even be a question on a 4473? CBD is the greatest thing ever. Just like hemp is the greatest thing ever. Everything related to marijuana is the greatest thing everl! It's magical! Just ask the people who want it legal. It's been legal here since 2014. I just looked out the window and the sky still seems to be right where I saw it last. The dinosaurs are dying. The decades of lies are getting exposed.
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It’s laughable that CBD use disqualifies a person from ‘lawful’ firearms transactions. Shouldn’t have to fill out a form to exercise a Constitutional Right; darn sure shouldn’t have to get government permission to exercise a Constitutional Right.
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That would happen if the manufacture was using the marijuana plant to produce the oil, instead of the cannabis plant , a case where quality control might be come an issue. They are the same plant but are different cultivars.
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