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That highlighted sentence is a very succinct summation of this whole discussion about why to choose a shotgun over a handgun.

Bullsheit, I know you. 😂😂

Anyone here not believe #9 birdshot will go all the way through a refridgerator? Lost 20.00 bucks on that trick.

I have learned on this thread that lots of folks are prescient and can anticipate the time and nature of the attack and will have plenty of time to get that scatter gun. I have heard more discussion of shot weight and type than of moving w/ a light and target ID in an environment that may contain other people. I have enjoyed the legendary deterrent effect of racking that 870 as oft repeated by the cop/marine/gunshop guy. Some folks are lucky enough to live where they don't have to worry about the boogeymen.

What seems mostly absent is discussion of training events attended, practicing moving through your home w/ a long gun or handgun or planning w/ your family on how to act in a life threatening emergency. I doubt if many practice these situations on a regular basis or dryfire weekly w/ their weapon of choice. Skeet shooting is good practice...for shooting birds. I'm sure that everyone has a plan if there is a housefire and practice it w/ their family. No one has yet said how they will accomplish a 20 yard headshot w/ their shotgun if needed or said that they carry a long gun at all times.

Hope, theory and internet discussions are so much easier than learning, planning and training.

YMMV


mike r

With respect....This sounds like utter bullshît!

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Ok, I will say this about shotguns for home defense...ouch!

3” 12 ga full house 00 buck kills at both ends. This thread had me curious so I grabbed my M1 that I just used turkey hunting and swapped the full choke for an improved cylinder and shot it at 20 yards with two rounds of Winchester mil contract 00 buck I bought bulk a few year back. Even found some old life sized a-hole targets to shoot at.

It basically feels like shooting a turkey load; with heavy recoil. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it in a defensive situation...and YMMV...but I’ll continue to have my AR’s and Glocks at the ready all day, every day.

I’m a believer in perfect practice makes perfect, and that you should train with the gun and loads you plan to rely on.

I doubt many guys train with full house 00 buck for long. 200 rounds of 5.56 (200/28= 7 mags), is a pleasant training session. 200 OO buck pellets (200/9=22 shells) is a black and blue shoulder and a headache. I don't believe heavy recoil is conducive to accurate shooting, fast follow up shots or more rounds on target. It applies to both hunting and home defense. For me, there’s no comparison—pass the carbine.

Well it ain't, I personally know him, and what he says you can take to the bank. One of the most down to earth, honest fellas you'll ever meet.

Mirage’s testimony leaves us with no choice.

We must trust the TrueGrit pending further review.

3" magnum loads in the home are unnecessary and will slow down following shots. Home defense for most of us centers around bad people, not marauding grizzly bears or African lions. That's a separate conversation.

But ya have to love the "RESPECTFULLY, you're full of chit" post. Very polite.

10-4

Bullshît meter will be recalibrated based on your testimony.

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It’s always best to offer a polite opening before doing dirt on someone. 😎

Yea, I'd a called bullsheit too if I didn't know him. 😁

He's a character and has lived an interesting life.

I'm just surprised he didn't kill none of em 😂😂

Appears TG may benefit from slinging a Benelli instead of a pistol....Grins 😎

Respect, is our foundation.

The Beav knows this.

Well I have read all the post through 12 and have learned a lot.I'm one of the
newest guys on fire, but wanted to add to discussion about old guys here.
Tomorrow I will be 77 yrs and my 870 will be 61. It was a present on my 16th.
It is in a rack on my side of the bed. Wife has a 45 New Service on her side.
We know how to use them. Pray we never have to. Distance from Bed , down
the hall is 36 ft. to the front foyer. Counting on one of the dogs waking us.
But if someone enters house without announcement...well. 870 is loaded with
a#71/2 spreader load, #6 spreader followed with 3 rounds of 00 buck. The #71/2
was 4" up and down and 14" wide at 20'. #6 was about 4" by 12" both on a 1/2"
4'x4' pc of sheetrock.
Gosh if I could have all the memories back that old 870 and I have made, it would
take a while to get through em.
Oldcuss

That's a 12yd. shot down that hall, I'd want #4 buck to start. Or at least #2 lead. Put him on his ass quick.

What sort of light do you use when gunnin' w/ that 870?



mike r

Yep!