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Many of our guns (mine included) spend more time at the range than out hunting.
For pure hunting, a 4x is a very good choice for a lot of difference hunting situations but I like a variable for higher magnification at the range.
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I guess what you started with has a big influence on your preferences. I started shooting .22’s with open sights as a kid. Got pretty good at it. My first deer rifle had a peep sight. Most beginners now start with a scope and have no idea how well it is possible to shoot with a peep sight. I was a very experienced shooter and hunter before I got my first scope. By today’s standards it was low powered. As I got more financially mature, I hunted more widely and internationally. I’m not a long range shooter, but I have killed a lot of game between 200-300 yards with a fixed six. My longest shot was an Ibex in Kyrgyzstan at 305 yards. Five years ago I killed a Kudu in Africa at 240 yards with a Leupold 3X. I have never felt I needed more magnification. And I love the relative mechanical simplicity and aesthetics of fixed power scopes on my classic rifles. As a fixed scope user and advocate I'm still trying to figure out if this applies to me. I started hunting small and large game with the bead on the end of my bird and bunny shotgun. I have three rifles that I use for most of my hunting. They are a 6x42, a 4x33, and a 3-9x40. I'd swap out the 3-9x40 for another 6X I have lying around, but it shoots so well that I don't want to mess with it.
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I wanted a Leupold 4x a few years ago but they only offered it in the stupid wide duplex so I found a used one instead. I think they pretty much killed both the 4 and 6 with the wide duplex reticle. The LRD in the 6 is pretty nice, but it was discontinued awhile back. Exactly, but I was surprised to find out that a buddy of mine that recently traded me a used FX-II 6x36 with the standard duplex actually prefers the wide one. He's the only person I've met that does. Otherwise he is a sensible guy. I’ve had several Leupold’s with a wide duplex and I like them. When I first started using scopes in the 70’s I was using my dad’s B&L with a fine crosshair and it worked great for both of us. So with the wide duplex I guess I figured I had the best of both worlds. Now, my favorite is the 2.5-8 Leupold. I have it on 2 Kimbers and A 3-9 Ultralight on my Ruger American Ranch. FWIW, my 2.5-8 was set on 4x this year when I shot my buck.
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I see all sides, personally I've used 2.5x, 4x, 6x, 10x and 12x fixed power scopes. I've also used variable scopes up to 24x.
I shot my first deer with a 20ga 870 with a fixed Simmons 2.5x scope in the woods about 75 yards with a pumkin ball as my grandfather called it lol. Those where the days!
Honestly I prefer to shoot low power scopes, but I have gravitated to variables that have a very low side say 1x or 2x on the bottom.
I love fixed power scopes, but the truth is I don't own any now. I greatly appreciate and enjoy shooting fixed scopes, but if I m being honest a quality 1-6 or 2-10 or something like that offers more up side to me at least!
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The $60-$80 4X fixed scopes killed off the $300 4X fixed scopes.
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Serious question for some of you fellows...umm,,, on the upper end of the socio-economic scale. Are the European fixed powers a little shy on eye relief? I have only looked through a couple of them at gun shows and they were probably older, if not vintage, and without a side by side comparison with my old B&L's, Weaver's, Lymans and Leupolds my impression was they were a little short on eye relief. Enough to make you think twice before pulling the trigger on a 9.3 or '06 Fwt in the prone sneaky position. I had the opportunity recently to shoot a Steyr .308 with a Kahles 6x with a BDC elevation dial (military scope?)...I loved it but it was in a pretty heavy rifle so eye relief was adequate with the rifle snugged up tight.
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I can speak to the Conquest 4x32 in its most recent production - it’s got excellent eye relief. I had it on a Whelen for that very reason.
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I came across a Nikon Buckmasters 4x40(original model) the other day.Seems like a decent scope.Good eyebox,ample eye relief,bright glass,and a great hunting duplex that's fairly thick.Don't have nothing to put it on,so I posted it on the classifieds.Not much interest,so I put it up for something down the road...
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Love my Leupold 4x33!
So who does still make a great fixed 4x?
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Meopta makes one that has good reviews but is pretty heavy.
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