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Wanting to start hunting and calling bobcat. I have a .22 hornet but worry about pelt damage, was thinking about a .22 WMR. What say you?
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If you are considering buying a 22WMR, take a hard look at the 17 Hornet.
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22 hornet would be fine just load a bullet that does not blow up easy ? Barnes copper ,Nosler Partition, Hornady
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If you use the 22WMR within its limitations it will work wonderfully. I’d keep it under 100y and 75 would be better A 22 hornet would be a better choice, but if you need an excuse to buy a new gun.....well. Here’s a pic of a cat that wound up on the wrong end of a CritRCall and a 22WMR
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Every cat I've killed has either been with the 223, or 22-250, mostly with the 223. I've always used a 50 grain Vmax in the 223, and 50 grain VMax in the 22-250, and have never had any fur damage. The only time I ever did was with a 223 and a 55 grain SP. Cat's aren't hard to kill, but they're mostly targets of opportunity for me when I'm hunting coyotes. So, I'm not going to handicap myself by using a rimfire, when a 223 will be a lot better choice. At least, it is for me.
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At least where I have shot Bobcats I have used a 222 or 223 with 40gr to 50gr bullets, like JamesJr mostly while hunting coyotes. would never use a 22 WMR for hunting either one. OP did not say where he lives so perhaps the cats are smaller there. Last Bobcat I shot in Utah was the same size as the coyotes, quite a bit larger than the one in Ky221's picture.
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That’s a bad angle to show the cats size, idc how big they get in Utah. The largest I’ve killed weighed 32# and it was shot with a 22-250 that left an ungodly exit. The 22wmr gets bad press and while there are better guns suited for calling and anchoring fur, there are absolutely no flies on a good 22WMR shooting good bullets on game less than 50# , by someone who is willing to take their time and thread the needle. Here’s another shot. He weighed 27# which I feel is a pretty decent average for Bob.
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good question...I agree with the comments above. Cats are not that hard to kill. But they are hard to see and come by. a rimfire will kill a cat certainly, but with limitations. Every cat I've killed, and I've killed a few here in TX, has been either called up or a shot of opportunity. They are shy creatures and I know a lot of long time hunters who have never taken one. My fear was always that I would see one 200 - 300 yards out, or wound one and have him jump in that thick south TX brush, and I never find him. Predator hunting has always been my passion, and back in the 80's I made good money on pelts, so i was always worried about fur damage (hate sewing fur) Unfortunately i also learned the hard way that sometimes a marginal hit is just that, marginal, and the critter and my date money escaped! Dont get me wrong, not saying you need a 30-06 for them lol! But I always tried to limit my shots to the limits of the gun I had, and sometimes that meant letting them walk away and come back another day. Rimfires will work, but I always seemed to have more certain results with the 17 Rem or 204 17HMR/22 mag was great on grey fox in thick stuff and close, but not what i wanted when that cat wandered out into the sendero at 200 yards away. You or a good taxidermist can always sew up a bullet hole, but not when the customer with the hole runs off lol! Good luck and good hunting!
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I kill around 60 to 70 Bobcats, a year about 1/2 trapped 1/2 called I use a 243 A.I. and 105 gr. Scenar , rarely have to sew up big holes. Rio7
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42# biggest I have called in. Rio7
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once in awhile I hit bone. Rio7
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You are concerned about pelt damage so I guess your selling hides. With that many kills is there enough money to be worth the effort ?
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Webster, I don't skin cats I put them in a plastic bag and then the freezer, 3 or 4 times each winter a friend comes by and picks them up and he does all the work, and sends me a check, for 1/2 of what he gets for them. I kill cats and coyotes for predator control not for profit,but they do buy me some powder and bullets. Rio7
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I've only shot one bobcat, and that was with my bow, I'd use my 22 Hornet with the 46gr flat nosed Speer's in a heartbeat, don't think they'd exit leaving at 2900 fps.
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Slow that velocity down, or harden that bullet up. Those pelts will be fine. Your .22 Hornet is honestly, ideal. If you're still not sure, try the 45 TSX in it.
The .17 Rem and 25 grain Horn Hollow Point has been pretty fur friendly for me, though I did blow one leg off a fox with it.
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Slow that velocity down, or harden that bullet up. Those pelts will be fine. Your .22 Hornet is honestly, ideal. If you're still not sure, try the 45 TSX in it.
The .17 Rem and 25 grain Horn Hollow Point has been pretty fur friendly for me, though I did blow one leg off a fox with it. All of what he said. If you know it will be a cat coming in the 20 grain Vmax in a 17 Rem works great Otherwise Ive shot them with a .223, a .223AI, and .222 all with 'hard" ( not frangible ) bullets. Yes, they exit, but they only leave about a .30 cal hole... The 17 Rem ( at least on the one I shot) didnt exit. This was a .223AI loaded to about 2650 fps with a Speer 55 gr. Gold dot. All that said..the .17 Rem. is for sure my favorite on fur.
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Webster, I don't skin cats I put them in a plastic bag and then the freezer, 3 or 4 times each winter a friend comes by and picks them up and he does all the work, and sends me a check, for 1/2 of what he gets for them. I kill cats and coyotes for predator control not for profit,but they do buy me some powder and bullets. Rio7
That's about what I figured. We had a covey of woods quail(bob whites) at the deer lease and often found a pile of feathers where a bobcat had got one. I took to shooting every bobcat I saw to no avail. They cleaned out the quail.
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The .22 MAG and Remington 597 is my favorite cat calling combination.
I have to pass on some cats, as they can hang up beyond what I consider effective .22 MAG range, but I kill my share of cats by calling them in thick cover.where a long shot is 50 yards and a close shot can be less than 5 yards.
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