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My dog won't bite. But when somebody comes up to the house he growls and barks like he'll tear your leg off.
Pffft! It’s a lab. Some Years ago, while riding my bicycle though rural Methburg MO on my way to NY, I was accosted by the meanest lab I have yet encountered. Had me cornered, circling around, me keeping the bike between us. A guy comes out and tries to call off the dog, no luck, he explains that it’s his daughter’s dog, it doesn’t listen and it’s a PITA. Finally, in frustration, he picks up a softball sized rock and whips it at the dog, a fastball, misses the dogs head by just a couple of inches. The lab stops, looks at him, looks at the rock, and then brings it back to him 
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. Birdy, I apologize, I wasn’t implying you posted anything off topic...It made me laugh that after several days, outta nowhere, you quoted my original post...It was as if, you finally made it through the many quoted conversation with active posters, then found the starting thread and went, “Oh, yeah, here’s my take on that post... Just having fun with you....😎 PS, Buy something worth stealing for your house...That purchase could lead you to another purchase of a cooler home defense weapon, like a Sig MPX or a Springfield Saint Edge Pistol.
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r Mike, you’re an enigma...Sometimes I think your a wild rogue who would crush an asshats windpipe with your boot heal and afterwards think, “I would love a cigarette, if I only knew where I put my lucky Zippo lighter” And then, there’s the reverent Mike, who will kill someone, but only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, and only if you had waffles that morning. Either way works! Grins 😎
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Buy something worth stealing for your house...That purchase could lead you to another purchase of a cooler home defense weapon, like a Sig MPX or a Springfield Saint Edge Pistol.
Yes, It's about time Birdy got himself a real gun. Who know, after that he might even get....a pick up truck!
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Buy something worth stealing for your house...That purchase could lead you to another purchase of a cooler home defense weapon, like a Sig MPX or a Springfield Saint Edge Pistol.
Yes, It's about time Birdy got himself a real gun. Who know, after that he might even get....a pick up truck! Like minds here Sniper...Birds been broke for too long. Birdy, you either married a Jewish Princess who’s papa was a New York divorce specialist. Or, you’re trying to single-handedly support Liechtenstein. Either way....How about you getting yourself a new pistol? Tax deduction if you call it school supplies. Hint. 😬😎
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r Mike, you’re an enigma...Sometimes I think your a wild rogue who would crush an asshats windpipe with your boot heal and afterwards think, “I would love a cigarette, if I only knew where I put my lucky Zippo lighter” And then, there’s the reverent Mike, who will kill someone, but only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, and only if you had waffles that morning. Either way works! Grins 😎 I am actually a cupcake, but personal experience has caused me to believe in the boogeyman. I miss no sleep over the demise of the boogereaters but I do miss that post action smoke. Real life imposes restraints that are onerous but bearable. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r Mike, you’re an enigma...Sometimes I think your a wild rogue who would crush an asshats windpipe with your boot heal and afterwards think, “I would love a cigarette, if I only knew where I put my lucky Zippo lighter” And then, there’s the reverent Mike, who will kill someone, but only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, and only if you had waffles that morning. Either way works! Grins 😎 I am actually a cupcake, but personal experience has caused me to believe in the boogeyman. I miss no sleep over the demise of the boogereaters but I do miss that post action smoke. Real life imposes restraints that are onerous but bearable. mike r Laffin...Them restraints can at times seem problematic. Wifey likes to remind me of the loss v. gain for 47 seconds of joyful, judicial street correction on those most deserving of attention...Old ways are difficult to stuff away at times. 😎
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r Mike, you’re an enigma...Sometimes I think your a wild rogue who would crush an asshats windpipe with your boot heal and afterwards think, “I would love a cigarette, if I only knew where I put my lucky Zippo lighter” And then, there’s the reverent Mike, who will kill someone, but only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, and only if you had waffles that morning. Either way works! Grins 😎 I am actually a cupcake, but personal experience has caused me to believe in the boogeyman. I miss no sleep over the demise of the boogereaters but I do miss that post action smoke. Real life imposes restraints that are onerous but bearable. mike r Laffin...Them restraints can at times seem problematic. Wifey likes to remind me of the loss v. gain for 47 seconds of joyful, judicial street correction on those most deserving of attention...Old ways are difficult to stuff away at times. 😎 Yeah, it is difficult to deal w/ creeps and the entitled in a lawful manner. I have found that thinking about dismembering them w/ an hatchet while smiling on the outside helps. mike r
Don't wish it were easier
Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that.
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. there is no justification for shooting someone other than reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury to an innocent human being. Being concerned for the aftermath of a shooting is something you should work out before the situation. Failure to act in a timely manner causes innocent people to die. Prioritize: 1] save your life and protect your family. 2]Talk to no one but your lawyer. Fear of acting against a deadly threat was often preached by trainers who were trying to make a name for themselves by espousing that the consequences were inevitably ruination of your life. As if death of yourself or a loved one was not deciding factor. mike r Mike, you’re an enigma...Sometimes I think your a wild rogue who would crush an asshats windpipe with your boot heal and afterwards think, “I would love a cigarette, if I only knew where I put my lucky Zippo lighter” And then, there’s the reverent Mike, who will kill someone, but only on the 2nd Tuesday of each month, and only if you had waffles that morning. Either way works! Grins 😎 I am actually a cupcake, but personal experience has caused me to believe in the boogeyman. I miss no sleep over the demise of the boogereaters but I do miss that post action smoke. Real life imposes restraints that are onerous but bearable. mike r Laffin...Them restraints can at times seem problematic. Wifey likes to remind me of the loss v. gain for 47 seconds of joyful, judicial street correction on those most deserving of attention...Old ways are difficult to stuff away at times. 😎 Yeah, it is difficult to deal w/ creeps and the entitled in a lawful manner. I have found that thinking about dismembering them w/ an hatchet while smiling on the outside helps. mike r ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I RIKE MIKE !^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Yeah, it is difficult to deal w/ creeps and the entitled in a lawful manner. I have found that thinking about dismembering them w/ an hatchet while smiling on the outside helps.
mike r
Dayum, I gotta up my game! Going to try this method next. Thanks for the pro tip! -Duck
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Yes, It's about time Birdy got himself a real gun.
Tks for your concern 🙂 I’m dumb enough to believe that a couple of rounds of .38 Special, even at snub velocities, delivered center mass from across a room constitutes a real gun. I might be mistaken. And a 9mm story that started with a theft: A good friend north of here was dumb enough to leave his 9mm Springfield XDs in his truck in his driveway. It got stolen. He reported the left to the police and immediately bought a replacement XDs. Two days later his stolen gun was found I unfired on a lawn 20 miles away, he got it back. Now me and this guy have gifted guns back and forth over the decades and he knew I had given my beloved Gen2 Glock 19 to my son, it being about as old as my son after all. So my buddy gave me his new XDS. I Go shooting with my son and he was enamored of the Springfield, it went home with him and my Glock 19 came home with me. Karma 🙂....... ......and a real gun. I have good karma, many of you guys are fu$kked.
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Yeah, it is difficult to deal w/ creeps and the entitled in a lawful manner. I have found that thinking about dismembering them w/ an hatchet while smiling on the outside helps. Oh please, that is the oldest trick in the book in teaching public school, it goes double when meeting the parents. And keep the chainsaw warmed up 
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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?? I got no prob being the village idiot but where have I posted off-topic on your thread?
It had been awhile since anyone mentioned that most of the time these punks want mostly to GET AWAY after being confronted by an armed homeowner.
Otherwise the sentiment had been expressed here that it was preferable to lawfully shoot a home invader lest they come back again better prepared to steal your stuff.
I would expect for most of us the aftermath of such a killing would lead us off into uncharted waters, probably expensive uncharted waters at the very least.
No one in my house right now besides me. If I could I would climb out a back window in the event of a home invasion rather than shoot someone over “stuff” (even if I had stuff 🙂), then I would call the Cops from a position of relative safety.
Cheaper in the long run. Texas doesn't have the castle law? In Kentucky (and other states with a castle law) it's a very bad idea to enter someone's house uninvited. They're paid for.
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Somebody told me that there are two kinds of burglars.
One kind is very careful to break in when they know for sure that nobody is home. They just want to stea
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The other kind hopes you are home or maybe doesn't care either way. That is the kind that you need to be ready for.
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There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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Yes, It's about time Birdy got himself a real gun.
Tks for your concern 🙂 I’m dumb enough to believe that a couple of rounds of .38 Special, even at snub velocities, delivered center mass from across a room constitutes a real gun. I might be mistaken. And a 9mm story that started with a theft: A good friend north of here was dumb enough to leave his 9mm Springfield XDs in his truck in his driveway. It got stolen. He reported the left to the police and immediately bought a replacement XDs. Two days later his stolen gun was found I unfired on a lawn 20 miles away, he got it back. Now me and this guy have gifted guns back and forth over the decades and he knew I had given my beloved Gen2 Glock 19 to my son, it being about as old as my son after all. So my buddy gave me his new XDS. I Go shooting with my son and he was enamored of the Springfield, it went home with him and my Glock 19 came home with me. Karma 🙂....... ......and a real gun. I have good karma, many of you guys are fu$kked. Birdy, Real home defense guns hold: 30 rounds of 5.56 or 7.62x39, 20 rounds of either 7.62x51, or 7.62x54, 7+ rounds of buckshot. Or something similar. As an example at 16" bbl .300 HAM'R would be acceptable with either a 20 round, or 30 round detachable box magazine. And the.300 Blackout is acceptable but only as a braces and suppressed "pistol" rig. 5 shot of snubnose .38 is just something to buy you a little time to get to your real gun.
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My guess is, the vast majority of burglars just want in and out with a minimum of drama. They don't enter occupied houses. It's a business to them. The less risk the better.
People who do home invasions are a totally different category of criminal.
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That purchase could lead you to another purchase of a cooler home defense weapon, like a Sig MPX Clearly you didn't grow up watching Kung Fu like I did, ya prob'ly don't have dragon designs burned into the inside of your forearms either. If you did you would know a man is owned by his possessions You did bring up the topic of 9mm carbines. If any of the AR clones are ideal for home defense, I dunno why something similar in 9mm wouldn't be even better. Certainly there's be less flash and blast. All you rank amateurs here may not care about your ears but I'm a Professional.............................. .............................................bird watcher. I dunno which would go through the most walls with a miss, I'm sorta remembering that the 5.56 tumbles impressively if driven fast enough whereas a 147gr 9mm can keep going sorta forever if it doesn't expand. Anyhoo.... I figure the only reason why 9mm carbines haven't been front and center on this thread is there just aren't all that many out there, not like AR platforms anyhow. I tried the Kel-Tec Sub 2000, the one that takes Glock magazines. The problem with that was the nifty folding design also dictates low-profile sights that I found impossible to pick up in a hurry. If I buy another gun it might be a Ruger PC9 carbine 
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