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How many days did you carry it in 2019?
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How many days did you carry it in 2019? Every day
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Waders;
Do we have a "winner" yet?
Virgil B. I'll do a preliminary calculation next week. I'm hoping people will give post updated responses with numbers. I can't put "most days" or "usually" on a spreadsheet.
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Colt Officer's Model 34 ACP. How many days last year?
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To clarify, S&W Model 637 for the vast majority of the year
How many days would you say that was?
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Springfield XDS in .45 ACP.....my only carry gun! memtb
How many days?
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I rotate between three. Wilson Xtac 5” 45 ACP. Springfield Xds 45 ACP and a Wilson Professional 4” 45 ACP. One is always on me or within arms reach 365. It's OK to estimate: Which one did you carry the most? How many days did you carry it?
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Colt Officer's Model 34 ACP. How many days last year? Good chance that's the only 8.6 mm in the list.
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Waders;
Do we have a "winner" yet?
Virgil B. I'll do a preliminary calculation next week. I'm hoping people will give post updated responses with numbers. I can't put "most days" or "usually" on a spreadsheet. I could do it and simply. Assign values as indicated by responses. As accurate as any data as you'll get in this kind of setting.
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I rotate between three. Wilson Xtac 5” 45 ACP. Springfield Xds 45 ACP and a Wilson Professional 4” 45 ACP. One is always on me or within arms reach 365.
😎 You just killed the poll.
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Waders;
Do we have a "winner" yet?
Virgil B. I'll do a preliminary calculation next week. I'm hoping people will give post updated responses with numbers. I can't put "most days" or "usually" on a spreadsheet. I could do it and simply. Assign values as indicated by responses. As accurate as any data as you'll get in this kind of setting. Sounds good. It's your project now.
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Waders;
Do we have a "winner" yet?
Virgil B. I'll do a preliminary calculation next week. I'm hoping people will give post updated responses with numbers. I can't put "most days" or "usually" on a spreadsheet. I could do it and simply. Assign values as indicated by responses. As accurate as any data as you'll get in this kind of setting. Sounds good. It's your project now. That is so awesome! And thank you! Assigned the values and did the calculations in my head just now. H&K P9S for the win!!!
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Seems a Glock 9mm has the highest number. If you want to distinguish between model categories, then double stack 9mm Glocks seem to win. I think narrowing it to barrel/grip lengths within that category would be misleading, as in falsely under accounting for the Glock, double stack, 9mm, such as breaking up the Glock 26 and the Glock 19, as if they were two entirely different choices, when really they are the same choice in gun, just different barrel and grip length choices.
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PRELIMINARY RESULTS:Before giving any results, I just wanted to say that I had to do some estimating to get actual numbers. I'm no statistician so if you want to criticize my methods, I'll just say this: You're right. I agree with you. -Several responders gave percentages. So I just did the math and came up with a number. If you carried GUN-1 "50% of the time" I called that 183 days. -Several responses said "almost everyday" or "almost all the time." I called that 90% of the time, which equals 329 days. -Several responses said "most days," "mostly," or "most of the time." I called that 75% of the time, which equals 274 days. -Several responses gave a range of days, i.e. "320-350 days." I always used the highest number of the range as the response. -There were 12 responses that didn't offer me enough information to even take a SWAG at it, and those responses are omitted. -Rather than track all the Smith J frames by model number, all .357's were lumped into one category; all .38's in another. -I grouped all 1911's, regardless of manufacturer into three categories (full-size, commander, and officer models). You'll notice no reported data for 1911's; that's because there were virtually no responders carrying 1911's. It kind of made me sad... The data:There were 82 usable responses. Those 82 responders carry 41 different guns as their primary EDC. The Winners:Glock 19 - 8 responders. 2854 days. Ruger LCP - 8 responders. 2009 days. Smith J frames (.38 Spcl) - 7 responders. 1885 days. Sig P365 - 6 responders. 1769 days. Shield 9mm - 5 responders. 940 days. Smith J frames (.357 Mag) - 4 responders. 924 days. (If you count the single Ruger LCR in this group it becomes: 5 responders. 1274 days) Glock 17 - 3 responders. 843 days. Kimber Micro 9 - 3 responders. 748 days. The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO. Thank you for participating! If there are enough additional responses, I may do an update.
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PRELIMINARY RESULTS:Before giving any results, I just wanted to say that I had to do some estimating to get actual numbers. I'm no statistician so if you want to criticize my methods, I'll just say this: You're right. I agree with you. -Several responders gave percentages. So I just did the math and came up with a number. If you carried GUN-1 "50% of the time" I called that 183 days. -Several responses said "almost everyday" or "almost all the time." I called that 90% of the time, which equals 329 days. -Several responses said "most days," "mostly," or "most of the time." I called that 75% of the time, which equals 274 days. -Several responses gave a range of days, i.e. "320-350 days." I always used the highest number of the range as the response. -There were 12 responses that didn't offer me enough information to even take a SWAG at it, and those responses are omitted. -Rather than track all the Smith J frames by model number, all .357's were lumped into one category; all .38's in another. -I grouped all 1911's, regardless of manufacturer into three categories (full-size, commander, and officer models). You'll notice no reported data for 1911's; that's because there were virtually no responders carrying 1911's. It kind of made me sad... The data:There were 82 usable responses. Those 82 responders carry 41 different guns as their primary EDC. The Winners:Glock 19 - 8 responders. 2854 days. Ruger LCP - 8 responders. 2009 days. Smith J frames (.38 Spcl) - 7 responders. 1885 days. Sig P365 - 6 responders. 1769 days. Shield 9mm - 5 responders. 940 days. Smith J frames (.357 Mag) - 4 responders. 924 days. (If you count the single Ruger LCR in this group it becomes: 5 responders. 1274 days) Glock 17 - 3 responders. 843 days. Kimber Micro 9 - 3 responders. 748 days. The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO. Thank you for participating! If there are enough additional responses, I may do an update. Wader, Fixing missing and ambiguous values is always a pain in the ass. You did just fine. Thank you for putting this together for us.
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PRELIMINARY RESULTS:Before giving any results, I just wanted to say that I had to do some estimating to get actual numbers. I'm no statistician so if you want to criticize my methods, I'll just say this: You're right. I agree with you. -Several responders gave percentages. So I just did the math and came up with a number. If you carried GUN-1 "50% of the time" I called that 183 days. -Several responses said "almost everyday" or "almost all the time." I called that 90% of the time, which equals 329 days. -Several responses said "most days," "mostly," or "most of the time." I called that 75% of the time, which equals 274 days. -Several responses gave a range of days, i.e. "320-350 days." I always used the highest number of the range as the response. -There were 12 responses that didn't offer me enough information to even take a SWAG at it, and those responses are omitted. -Rather than track all the Smith J frames by model number, all .357's were lumped into one category; all .38's in another. -I grouped all 1911's, regardless of manufacturer into three categories (full-size, commander, and officer models). You'll notice no reported data for 1911's; that's because there were virtually no responders carrying 1911's. It kind of made me sad... The data:There were 82 usable responses. Those 82 responders carry 41 different guns as their primary EDC. The Winners:Glock 19 - 8 responders. 2854 days. Ruger LCP - 8 responders. 2009 days. Smith J frames (.38 Spcl) - 7 responders. 1885 days. Sig P365 - 6 responders. 1769 days. Shield 9mm - 5 responders. 940 days. Smith J frames (.357 Mag) - 4 responders. 924 days. (If you count the single Ruger LCR in this group it becomes: 5 responders. 1274 days) Glock 17 - 3 responders. 843 days. Kimber Micro 9 - 3 responders. 748 days. The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO. Thank you for participating! If there are enough additional responses, I may do an update. Uh, what about the Glock 26. I'm one, and I remember at least one other.
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Uh, what about the Glock 26. I'm one, and I remember at least one other.
The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO.
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Uh, what about the Glock 26. I'm one, and I remember at least one other.
The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO.
Take that! Seriously. I specified days carried, too. Maybe he has me on ignore.
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Uh, what about the Glock 26. I'm one, and I remember at least one other.
The rest of the data is pretty meaningless, IMHO.
Take that! Sorry, TRH, maybe I should have said "statistically insignificant" rather than "meaningless." There were quite a few ones-ies and twos-ies. As such, there really isn't any need to calculate any result--the raw data is the result. I don't have my spreadsheet here at the house, but I think I only published data for a gun if at least 3 people carried it. No slight was intended (other than the fact that the G26 is for girls... ) EDITED TO ADD: In my preliminary remarks, you'll also see that I didn't report anything for the 1911's (for the same reason--there was something like one of each size (full, commander, officer) so I just left the 1911's out of the final result.)
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