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![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/TWVqVq3l.jpg) I like 'em both. I will say, that little Husqvarna cost $618, and that was 5 years ago. That is a beautiful little saw.
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I can't find the hole on mine. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/medium/128750.jpg)
The DIPCHIT ADD, after a morning of drinking:
You despair, repeatedly, constantly! daily basis?
A despair ninny.
Sack up, despire ninny.
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I just bought a new Stihl MS 391 Saturday, 25" bar 64.1 cc 4.4 bhp, weight is 13.7 lbs dry less bar and chain. This thing is a beast, cuts like butter, smooth, vibration free. I don't use a chainsaw often and I have a small Stihl 170 that I use for most small work, but have several large trees that need to come down and wanted something that would handle them. So far I'm impressed with the power and ease of use.
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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Six hundred bucks. I bet that is a nice saw.
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Pro line Echo replaced my Stihls. Better warranty...more reliable saw
Power to weight ratio is over rated. I want a saw with balls that’s won’t quit...ounces don’t matter
BUT...husqy and stihl make fine saws IF you buy their pro lines. Their home owner/ranch stuff is garbage. If you have a good service long dealer close by...stock with that brand.
All nonsense aside...I run pro line echo and it’s the best I’ve ever used...line trimmers, and backpack blowers as well.
GOD Bless America
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Wouldnt go so far as to say the Stihl homeowner and farm and ranch saws are junk, I have a MS 170 that I put a 16' E Light bar and a 3/8 picco full chisel chain on that cuts way above its pay grade. I will agree however that the Pro Saws are a HUGE step up. For instance my 261cm cuts like a bigger saw and will cut circles around a 250 or 271 Farm Boss and its a few pounds lighter and more comfortable to use. My 462cm just plain rips through wood and will outclass most other competitors similar saws ive used, also at lighter weight and with good antivibe system.
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Time for a new chainsaw, the old Poulon 2450 has bad gas lines and primer bulb, as well as a dull chain and worn bar. It did well for about 20 years, but was not really that great of a saw to start with. Going to be moving and will be getting back to firewood as a heat source. How big a saw do I need? Looking at Husqvarna's and Echo's. 40 cc or 50cc+? Bar length? thinking 18-20 inch. Would like the saw to be under 18 pounds. For those that use them for firewood what is best/better? Seems to be a whole lot of new Chinese saws on the market, don't want any of them. Had a Johnesred many years ago that was a beast, but appears they are made by Husky now. Something at or around 270-300 cc would be the right mix given what you said...
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No, a 401 Maico, the most insane motorcycle I have ever raced. Chainsaws a Maul might have been 200 cc's. took two to operate.
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Well, might get scolded but I bought an Echo CS-490. A 50cc with a 20" bar. Will run it for awhile, then decide if an 18" or even a 16" bar would be better. Looked at a Stihl 271, but at about $575 wasn't convinced. The Echo was $340 out the door with our 8% tax. Looked at the 590 Echo, it was nice but on the heavy side in comparison. Time will tell if I made a good choice. I might even look into what it would cost to get Poulon back up and running as a "trimmer" saw. You made an excellent choice, though 18" probably would have been better. Still it's a good idea to have a spare bar. I'm cringing at all the recommendations for professional level saws or brands with next to zero dealer support. I guess some folks are loose when it comes to other people's money.
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I have little dealer support. Only order parts from them.
It’s a two stroke for pity sake. Not a lot of parts.
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"After too much ethanol the carb needed replacing" Amen. I know what you mean, $217 repair on my Stihl. Do yourselves a favor and get non ethanol gas. List of gas stations that sell non ethanol gas. https://www.pure-gas.org/Excellent link! Wish I had that info a couple of carburetors ago.
@jameslavish
If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
This is inflation
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Pro line Echo replaced my Stihls. Better warranty...more reliable saw
Power to weight ratio is over rated. I want a saw with balls that’s won’t quit...ounces don’t matter
BUT...husqy and stihl make fine saws IF you buy their pro lines. Their home owner/ranch stuff is garbage. If you have a good service long dealer close by...stock with that brand.
All nonsense aside...I run pro line echo and it’s the best I’ve ever used...line trimmers, and backpack blowers as well. When you are in your upper 60's ounces matter, at least they do to me when I work 4 or 5 hours non-stop cutting. I guess if I only cut a few trees a year then weight would not be a problem. Getting old is not fun.
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Well, might get scolded but I bought an Echo CS-490. A 50cc with a 20" bar. Will run it for awhile, then decide if an 18" or even a 16" bar would be better. Looked at a Stihl 271, but at about $575 wasn't convinced. The Echo was $340 out the door with our 8% tax. Looked at the 590 Echo, it was nice but on the heavy side in comparison. Time will tell if I made a good choice. I might even look into what it would cost to get Poulon back up and running as a "trimmer" saw. You made an excellent choice, though 18" probably would have been better. Still it's a good idea to have a spare bar. I'm cringing at all the recommendations for professional level saws or brands with next to zero dealer support. I guess some folks are loose when it comes to other people's money. Have you run any pro saws from the major manufacturers? They are a HUGE step up in performance from the homeowner and farm and ranch saws. Also made much better using metal instead of plastic etc etc. More durable, easier to work on, easily obtainable parts etc. Have added features such as better ergos, anti vibe systems etc. As far as Stihl goes they are more powerful, yet lighter. For example compare an MS 271 Farm Boss in the farm/ranch vs a Ms261CM in the Pro line. The farm boss is 50.2cc and puts out 3.49hp. Powerhead weighs 12.3 lbs. The 261 is also 50.2cc but puts out 4.0 horsepower but weighs only 10.8. Thats around 1.5lbs less with higher power output and built better too. And believe me for the average person 1.5lbs means alot over a course of an extended cutting session! Also better performance means less cutting time or more production with your time. MSRP for the Farm Boss is 409, 261CM is 589. I'll gladly pay the extra $180 for the benefits of the Pro line 261. Buy once cry once. I tell anyone who asks me that if you are only looking to buy and have 1 saw with a 16 or 18 bar, the Stihl 261 is about the perfect saw. If you may need to step up a bit the 362 would be ideal for your one saw. At $779 Msrp with a 20" bar its not totally outrageous either.
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Bought a new Husky 372 with 24” bar and full wraps from Maddens out of Centralia Washington for $780 about 2 years ago. Replaced an old 266. Great saw . Light. Powerful. Reliable. I still run an old 288 with 28” bar if need be. I’ve run stihl 044, 056, and 460. Always came back to husky. Stihl is overated and overpriced. That said if you don’t work on your own gear buy the best service be it husky, stihl, dolmar. Spend the money on a pro saw
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