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Heard that China was making threatening noises to Australia. I would like to hear from some of the residents what is going on and your take on the matter. I was fortunate enough to serve alongside Australians and later to work with them at Dow Chemical. Aside from being bat s*** crazy on their down time, I found them to be pretty good folk.

China is threatening everyone. How we respond will be the determinating factor. The Europeans rolled over. I don't think the Australians will.

We need to nuke those slant eyes off the face of the earth!!! Then move on to the muslims..

Well maybe Australian people can disarm faster. Show real grit there................. Just bend over as fast as you can......................

That will show um............

You really are an idiot.

I'm not sure what to make of it. The government wants an independent investigation into the origin and spread of COVID19 (to prevent this from happening again? looking for lessons to learn?). They've also made the comment that they are concerned over China's lack of transparency during the outbreak and that information has/is being withheld. Kinda sounds like it may cost a lot more than it's worth - even ignoring China's threat. I don't think an enquiry would ever be successful.

China didn't like that so responded with threats of going elsewhere for their purchases. China is Australia's biggest export market - 31%, largely iron and coal worth $120 billion. Tourism and education (Australia takes in overseas students) are other key sources of income from China.

szihn, mate, you spend way too much time enjoying your own company.

Australia is full a bunch of real men and women, country boys and country gals. Not a bunch of man-bun wearing beta males. Serving with a bunch of their military, they're mechanically competent too, can work/fix/operate anything. Common sense and not afraid to fight.

Some of our best and loyal allies, they'll push back against any international menace, like China.

They have been a clear and present danger for years, and have been quietly buying assets here. At last they have shown their colours. Last year they made a 'friendly visit' of a number of war warships to Sydney Harbour- sorry, but a Chinese warship with armed marines guarding its deck (whilst moored at a secure Australian naval base) within 2 km of the NSW Parliament on the anniversary that the Japanese attacked Sydney Harbour in WW2 was no coincidence, and was a clear threat.

Sure, a warship is sovereign Chinese territory, and needs to be protected, but if you are on a friendly visit, don't you keep your armed marines out of sight?

A week ago, a Chinese aircraft blocked a Pacific Island runway stopping an Australian aid flight landing- coincidence? I don't believe in them.


Thoughts of many Australians toward China have been blinkered by trade, and financial greed, and a population hooked on cheap consumable rubbish.

Strategically thinking Australians have been saying war between the US and China is a matter of 'when' not 'if' for some years.

I think China's behaviour of late has made it very clear who our friends are, and where our loyalties lie. They have as it were turned a page and showed their true colours- what we are seeing now is a bit like 1938- when Hitler was Newsweek 'Man of the Year'- I am not saying we are going to war next year, but we all know the sudden attitude change that occurred and what followed.

Incidentally Mainer- I have to disagree with you, Australians, like a lot of Americans and Europeans have grown soft. Too much civilisation!

Szihn was trying to get you guys to see reality. That was as polite as I can say it! Be Well, Rustyzipper.

with respect to all,one of my good friends was a U.S.A. frontline wounded Viet Nam Marine ,he seen some nasty battles and told me the Aussie`s were right with him fight`n and never backing down in all the battles in Viet Nam.this U.S.A. Marine also said to me he has great respect for these Aussie soldiers, this Marine is still one tuff dude yet at 70 years old and i believe what he said.

every body should just quit buying all that crap that comes out of that country

Worked with Aussies during Nam and they were fine troops who feared nothing from all appearances. Subtle or overt, threats are a silly strategy to employ against Oz.

Great people down south. Not been there for some time but friends report China is purchasing Australian ores as fast as ships can be loaded.

China is the enemy

Reminds me of "Pig iron Bob".


Truthfully I would not be surprised if all the smoke and mirrors we have been subjected to lately were because we are already in a low level war.


Something is afoot.

China will starve if the rest of the world will stop buying from them . we do not have them in our life

IMO, China made a colossal blunder handling (mishandling) the Corona virus, by locking down Wuhan to domestic travel, leaving international flights ongoing for weeks. They knew how bad it was, thus their domestic precautions.

Now, was their motivation to let the world get infected to give them a leg up on everyone else? Maybe hard to pin down Chicom thinking, but a skeptical outlook is probably the most plausible.

The world, not just the USA, has been impacted in a major way. Now, what they (we) gonna do about it? Roll over or retaliate? Economics built them, economics can bring them down a notch or two.

Maybe Nixon’s China outreach idea wasn’t as smart as he thought it was at the time. The thinking was and continued thru several administrations, bring the sleeping giant into the mainstream, they’d have to move toward democracy. Now how’d that work out. “Smart” people can sure be dumb.

DF

Just to clear it up. The Aussi troops in the 60s and early 70s were great. I am not speaking to them. I am speaking to the current "men" of Oz from around 2015 until today. I am speaking to the people of Oz the surrendered their guns when a communist ordered them to so. Now they can be controlled. The compromised themselves right into safety and bliss.....................right? I see the same thing happening in my own country, and like all the defect to the other side, I have the utmost contempt for those American too.

Facts and historical truth can be dismissed, the "reasons" argued, and the blame passes, but you can't change the past or the truth.
And the people of Oz already surrendered to the communist in office and didn't resist at all.

szihn you are spot on with that post .

>yes your right and American`s better wake up ! the Hunger Game Movie just might be more realistic for our future if America does not wake up ?

What are you referring to here? Why 2015?




I have more firearms now than I had at the time of the "buyback". Just looked out the window and can't see any communists either.


I think you are a fearful, ignorant fool that loves to incite conspiracy.

Yep, that is about the size of it. The bloke knows nothing, and isn't backward in demonstrating that fact. Probably couldn't find Australia on a map.

the first thing that occurred to me when I saw this in the news was that the Chinese automatically assumed that the investigation would focus on them and ultimately show them in a bad light, so they went on the attack, if they had nothing to hide they wouldn’t have assumed it was about them and gone on the attack, that’s a pretty typical reaction when you have something to hide, as far as I understood the people wanting the investigation just wanted to find out what happened to prevent it happening again, it wasn’t an attack on China, maybe I misunderstood the situation but I don’t think so.

Mauserator.

The government that banned semi autos in Australia was not a communist government.

You are wasting your time as he and those like him are too stupidly insular to listen.

If I recall, the Australian Government of the day was a conservative government of the Australian Liberal Party, a party which was and is ideologically aligned with the Republican Party.

Following your logic Donald Trump is the leader of the Communist Party of America. Is this what you mean?

China's big strength is economic, military not so much.

And, that's where they're the most vulnerable and exactly where they need to be hit.

DF

Chinese communist party are thugs. Top 3% of the population are rich beyond belief, and they could care less about their own Chinese poor....there is NO middle class in China.

Trump should eject all Chinese students from the country, quick....just to start. Kick them out of the World Trade Organization. Let those ejected students go back and tell the rest of their country what the USA is thinking.

Then figure out what we are going to do about all the debt.

From the time that Richard Nixon went to China, all leaders in this country have sold the USA out. Every time you heard of another country getting, "Most Favored Status", that was thousands of jobs leaving the USA, leading to entire towns being economic Ghost Towns.

As long as voters want cheap goods made by slave labor, politicians keep lining their pockets.

By Christmas, the World maybe in a World Wide Depression...No one may want to buy our T bills anymore, and when China stops buying the T bills, it is time to bend over and kiss your sweet ass good bye!.

Look at congressional family connections with the Chicoms.

Yes, the U.S. Govt IS for sale...

You can buy influence for the right price. Money talks.

DF

Been my experience as well!

It's not actually a matter of where it happens but Why IT HAPPENS.
History is full of the repetition of people taking the easy way. Look at this quote.

“Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. [assuring extreme hardships and doom for your children] Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”
~ Michael Rivero

here in America I see it as a daily new clip. Covid 19 (and the fraud that surrounds it) is such an excuse not to think at all.”

I am harder on the massive number of cowards in my own country than I am on other countries with smaller populations, but in "Oz" (and in Germany, Spain Russia China and about 1500 others) we see what happens when cowards do nothing.
And the rabid defense (in word only,) of their cowardice is also as common as the sunrise. Because cowards hate the word coward.

Truth is calls "hate speech" by those that hate the truth.

there is NO middle class in China.

That's simply not so. Professionals, small business owners, ordinary government workers all live what we consider comfortable middle-class lives. They don't make a pile of money by our standards, but taxes are very low, they save, and they don't carry a bunch of debt. Almost every one owns a second or third apartment that they rent out. They dine out a lot, and well too.

They don't own land, except in very rare circumstances. Even farmers grow their crops on land they are allotted. Those who own actual houses, as opposed to apartments, don't own the lots they sit on either.

I like Australia and would personally consider any action against them an act of war against the United States

And New Zealand too.

News is reporting that China is boycotting the import of Australian beef. I certainly hope Australia tells them to GF themselves.

Australia ought to ban the export of their milk (and maybe mutton) to China. They don't trust their own milk (with good reason) for feeding their babies. Meat of all kinds is expensive, and often not good by our standards, so the loss of foreign sources would hit the public hard.

WAR... you dont say, China has been attacking us for years, economically, buying real estate, manufacturing, importing fentanyl, breaking down our culture, attacking our society through social media and using any means possible to weaken us and divide the republic. All with out nukes or boots on the ground...... and now the corona thing, maybe we will learn to quit supporting a communist country for the sake of cheap chit. We have been our own worst enemy, allowing legislators to make goofy rules, no term limits and our desire to have more cheap chit. Its time to stop this nonsense and quarantine the aggressor...

He'll, it just came out today that china was hacking into research
On Covid in the US and UK. Attacking knowledge in the mess they
helped create. Thems some big yellow balls.

For decades while we have talked about a "trade imbalance",

China has been engaged in a trade war, and commando/spy attacks
on technology and other knowledge.

Russia was never the problem, it was always the Chinese. They have always wanted to weaken the US through any possible means. This from a guy who spent spent many years doing business internationally(including the Chinese).

. I'm gonna save this one......

Reality is that if Slow Joe and his Commie pals get in office the same thing will happen here.There will not be many who will not fold when the Gestapo comes for you.

Huntz is 100% correct. SlowJoe is not a problem, but the Dem/Comms are going to install a VP that will replace him very soon after his appointment (the election will be rigged) and the VP become president with Him/Her/It the appointing either Hillary or someone controlled by Hillary. DO NOT aloow the election to be rigged and bring it to light at every opportunity. If they rig it anyway, organised a tax revolt and get ready to fight.....................or simply surrender. Those are the only 2 choices you'll have.

People are predictable to a large extent and it's well documented. See old quotes below for a reminder) Laziness, cowardice and apathy are all part of the nature of most humans. A few are sheep-dogs, but most who are not lazy, cowardly or apathetic are wolves, and that is a recurring theme in all history. Americans are below stupid to think it can't happen here. It's happening now and has been for decades, but this Covid19 fraud is living proof beyond argument of any ---------------------------------------------except the most dedicated cowards.

We do not err because truth is difficult to see. It is visible
at a glance. We err because this is more comfortable.
........................Alexander Solzhenitsyn


"None is more hopelessly enslaved then those that falsely believe they
are free"
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without
bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not
too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with
all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival.
There may even be a worse case; you may have to fight when there is no
hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
Winston Churchill

"How fortunate for those in power that the people never think" (for
themselves)...............Adolph Hitler.
"You will occasionally meet brilliant individuals, but people are
always stupid" ..............Adolph Hitler.

"life is tough, It's tougher when your stupid" ................... John
Wayne

"the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do
nothing" ..Edmond Burke

"To predict the behavior of ordinary people in advance, you only have to
assume that they will always try to escape a disagreeable situation with the smallest
possible expenditure of intelligence". ...........Friedrich Nietzsche


"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the
name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist
program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it
happened." -

Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940,
1944 and 1948

The opposite of courage is cowardice, but the words "reasonably",
"conformity" or "cooperation" are what cowardice is called most of the
time,------------------- because cowards hate the word "cowardice".


" What part does light have with
darkness?"................................................Jesus Christ

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because You have rejected knowledge I will also reject You
.."..............God, ------------------through the profit Hosea


I am only one man, but I am a man. I cannot do everything, but I can do
somethings. And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to so
something I can do! What I can do, I should do, and by the grace of
God, I will do!
Edward Hale

It’s next to Greenland or maybe New Zealand right?

You might find there are many people who lean to the right, yet support gun control because of a perception of public safety rather than political ideology. That is what happened in Australia. It wasn't the left that brought in laws banning semi autos.

Semi autos are still available under a special category, but you need to show reason....a farmer who needs a semi auto for pest control for example.

A conservative federal gov led by a wacky
pentecostal christian decided not to tell its
citizens or the state Premier of NSW
about the due arrival of the warships.

The Fleet arrived the day before 30th anniversary
of the Tiananmen massacre.

The men of america bow down to the same policies any time they fill out a tax stamp for an SBR, silencer or machine gun. 1938 those gun control acts rolled out, you were still a pretty tough and traditional nation back then but I dont read any historical resistance to it. No shootouts with police, no storming city hall, no mass refusals forcing a reversal. Not then and not now. You took it just like a British subject would have. 80 years of happily filling out 'Communist paperwork' to own a slightly different type of item.

Add to that another 20,000 pieces of legislation designed to circumvent your 2A over the last 120years. I dont recall seeing any mass refusals, town hall takeovers, militia action to reverse them.

See this is what we call empty talk or blowharding. You could at any time show your own courage to resist such a law directly( maybe post a video of shortening a rifle barrel without your communist paperwork ).

but of course its easier just to talk about everyone elses 'lack of courage' in your country and mine

Don't bother, you will just get a headache.

China has been threatening the whole world, we must find a way to tame them, they are really drunk about taking control of the world, they will do anything to get that.

Australia deserves all our support. They have always been there for us.

I agree. Australia has awoken and is building up their military, despite the downturn due to Covid. NZ needs to wake up. Their military isn't getting bigger or better equipped. They seem to think they are insulated from world affairs. With one of the largest EEZs in the world and Chinese fishing fleets sailing south, they better wake up and build up their navy.

History isn't much studied. But I see parallels between China and pre-WW 1 Germany.

I think most the sabre rattling with china is just cover for the trade war the west has been bungling the last two decades.

After the USSR broke up , the west set up business in that whole sphere and made bank. We all sold currencies, land, national assets, even gave away our manufacture for a quick buck. The 90's and 2000's were all about 15% stock returns, cheap goods, easy mortgages,it was rejoicing throughout the land . We even invented a bunch of new fluff jobs to keep ourselves busy because we didnt need to actually make stuff anymore.

Then when the economy slowed down and russia started taking its territories back, the party ended. We were left with bloated workforces of dog shampooers and tree pyschologists competing against leaner hungry nations who own all the factories.

You dont need a crystal ball to figure this stuff out. The funniest thing is we wrote the rules to this war and even invited China to play in it.

You're not wrong.

Made me chuckle. NZ has less population than the Chicago greater city area fellas, its defence force about the same personnel as the Chicago PD. Navy ships are the most expensive platforms in existence, to buy, maintain, staff and service. New zealand currently only affords a fleet of 4 and two are patrol boats. The idea of getting an economy that small to build a navy that can patrol " one of the largest EEZ's" is sheer comic book fantasy.

Yeah, I know. There's the saying that it's not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. Simply not true, the bigger dog is always going to win the fight par on par with the weaponary unless something is majorly wrong.

There's talk now of China banning the import of Aussie coal, barley, copper ore, sugar, timber, wine and lobsters.

excellent point

Excuses, not reasons. Your allies are more apt to help you if you try to defend yourself and need help, rather than totally rely on others.
Let's compare it with three countries with slightly larger populations. New Zealand has a population of 5 million. Norway, Denmark and Finland all have a population of less than 6 million, so they are slightly larger. Here are their military strengths--
New Zealand- 2 frigates, 2 light infantry battalions, one mechanized battalion, 3 MPA, no fighter/bombers, no armor.
Norway- 4 frigates, 6 subs, 6 corvettes, 1 armored brigade, 6 MPA, 44 F16 & 15 F35.
Denmark- 2 brigades, 1 tank battalion, 5 first line frigates, 4 patrol frigates, 41 F16, 4 MPA.
Finland- 100+ Leopald 2 tanks, 3 brigades, 8 FAC, 60 F18.
As you can see, all 3 other countries have much larger, and well rounded armed forces. I don't expect NZ to match them. However, since the army is so small, has no armored vehicles or attack helicopters and the air force only has transport aircraft, 3 MPA and no combat aircraft, the money saved could be put to good use getting 1-2 more frigates and a few more MPAs. Also, to mention, the Danish and Norwegian frigates are much newer and better armed than the New Zealand ones. New Zealand has always saved money on naval procurement by piggybacking on Australian ship orders. Now, NZ is keeping their obsolescent Anzac class frigates while Australia has ordered 9 Type 26 frigates to replace theirs. If they don't wake up and order, they'll be left behind. NZ reminds me of Ireland. They have tiny armed forces because they think Australia/United Kingdom can protect them. What they fail to realize is that neither of those countries can go it alone against the two major threats in the world today.
ETA--For those that don't know, except in times of national emergency, a navy is capable of keeping one of three ships fully capable at one time. When I was in Auckland in Jan/Feb 2018, the whole RNZN was there except one inshore patrol boat. One of the frigates did do some small boat exercises in the harbor, but that was it.

That is kind of rude, you see a couple of kiwis in a tinny out fishing and you think it was their navy...understandable...but rude.

It did look sorta small, now that you mention it...

I agree but New Zealand does not 'totally rely 'on others, the argument is degrees of reliance.
Bigger allies of course always want their clients paying more for defence assets usually made in the bigger country



None the size to materially resist China in area the size of the south pacific being my point.

Also the countries you mention are each 50-200% economically larger than NZ. They enjoy the benefits of being part of the Euro hub, also being countries that are much 'cheaper to run' , compared to an island shipping everything from thousands of miles away- youd have noticed the difference between US and NZ prices when you were there. They have less money to buy the same level of toys.

But again, I wasnt making an argument for the kiwis defence policy, more outlining some geography and logistics to those in the Northern hemisphere.

It is a moot point really as we annexed them some time ago, just didn't bother to say anything about it so as to not disturb the locals.

We renamed it "that other island over there".

Damn you're harsh.

The arrogance of a country that controls a continent.


Keep practicing, you will soon sound like a Texan!

Just don't colonize them with snakes and spiders and they won't really care. They have really ferocious beagles at their ports of entry...

Once again, reread my post. I'm not suggesting that they match any of those countries in army, navy and air force. I just wish they would come close in one of them, the navy. Since they're not buying Gen 5 fighters, big transport aircraft, attack helicopters, tanks and subs, they should be able to afford 3-4 newer frigates and a few more MPAs. I'd suggest 3-4 Type 31s (look it up) and 2-3 more P8s (look them up, too). Even better would be Absalon class support ships. They'd be good for defense, humanitarian missions, EEZ enforcement and would also fit in seamlessly with the Aussie navy in a real war. Anything with China will be all air and naval. Nobody in their right minds would do land invasions against them. Maybe some raids on their little bases in the SCS.

No problem, we were going to annex you lot as well but no one here could work out what to do with all those commie lefties you have there...so we left you alone.

Maybe next time, if you are really lucky.

Again, same old argument, you just repeated it twice.

As my mother used to say, "the yellow men will rule the world, it's in the bible". Oh, okay ma.

Yep, and you still haven't rebutted it. You give the same "if you can't beat them one on one, why bother trying". You must've gotten beaten up a lot in your life.

Whats to rebutt. Your words were "you wish NZ tried slightly harder at defence". Good for you.

My opinion was is it wont make much difference to resisting china and how much they should try is an argument I dont get into.

Better luck next time understanding the debate, or lack thereof.

As to being beaten up, well being ex military I can say I didnt win everything I got into. I do know enough to stay out of army vs army debates with COD playing millenials.

My father said as much 45 years ago.

Pretty sure your father was correct.

The last 12 months has proven what many have been saying for some time, Australia needs to develop better and more diverse markets for our exports and start making stuff ourselves instead of just exporting the raw materials, but our politicians always take the easy short term options, for instance look at Sweden, they mine iron ore just like us, but they make it in to steel, Swedish steel is known for its quality and sells for good money, most of our steel works have closed down, we just export the ore to China, and buy it back after they make stuff from it, same with wool, cotton, timber and countless other things, then they blackmail us because they can, cause they know they have us by the balls.

China doesn't want our wine now - I think it was a $1.25 billion export, out of a total of $100 billion export to them or so.

China has no interest in a level playing field, they wish a seat on the throne in a manner of speaking. Their weakness is an overwhelming lack of natural resources. Epic poker game it is. I recall that Japan got a little pissy when FDR cut off steel exports to them....led to their experience with mushroom clouds it did.

Politicians are, for the most part, idiots. Bitch slap them a few times and they will be better behaved.

Very true. We the people have taken it in the ass for far too long as far as 2A is concerned.

The Chinese understand gunboat diplomacy quite well.

Remember a few years ago when one of our carriers was denied their usual/normal visit to - I think - Singapore? That made the news, as did the rescinding of the denial a week or 2 later, without explanation.

A co-worker had a daughter in Naval Intelligence, Hawaii, at the time, and she passed on to her parents the reason the denial was rescinded.

In the interim, an entire carrier task force (Kitty Hawk?) had sailed the Strait of Taiwan. Pretty tight quarters!

That did not make the news.

Singapore is not part of China. Shanghai, perhaps?

Simple enough, expand our markets and stop selling them shit.

The Chinese see most white/western style societies as an obstacle in the way of their global ambition. I've spoke with several Chinese about it. They want the whites out of South Africa and I wouldn't be surprised if they are in some way supporting the farm attacks.

One Chinese official said the Chinese see whites as competition, everyone else not so much. Many of them seemed pretty racist to me and several seemed ambitious and out to prove something. In general however I got along and felt more comfortable around the Chinese than I did the Japanese the summer I spent in Asia. I just found the chinese more open and easier to talk to and much less uptight and formal than the Japanese. I did trust the Japanese and had a lot of respect for them I just had a hard time with their communication styles and the whole public face private face thing.

China is likely going to be a big global problem. A whole generation of spoiled only children with a gender imbalance meaning too few women ran by a totalitarian communist regime. Gee, what could go wrong.

They already considered themselves in a war with the west they are just buying time while they use softer asymmetrical warfare tactics against us and buy off our politicians and help rig our elections. We should cut ties now but we already given them way too much tech and manufacturing know how. It wasn't long ago that the only things we bought from them was rubber dog crap and fireworks.

Too bad Aussies are turning into metro men like us and letting the progressives rule. There may come a day when the regret disarming their people.

Bb

hopefully Trump remains president for the next 4 years and if Trump is we will have your back, but with Bejing Biden remaining the new president its not good for us either.

Here's a list of the 14 grievances that China has with Australia:

https://twitter.com/ErykBagshaw/status/1328983898911457280

Not sure what they all mean but looks like they want us to cleave away from any alliance with the US, and don't understand freedom of speech and that government don't actually control what the press say, unlike what they do over there in China. We really need to be looking to offload them as a major customer - we want to be trading partners, not an extension of China.

The US sells arms to over 100 client countries, over half ot them human rights abusers. It outsells the next 5 countries combined( Russia, Uk, france, china etc). For 'global amitions' no one holds a candle to the good old US of A. The US also opened the gates for Russia and china to play global business after the breakup of the USSR. Western countries got to set up business in the half of the world that used to be iron curtain, it was like raiding alladins cave- we got cheap goods, 15% stock returns, easy credit and in the 1990's a 19 year old kid could buy 2 houses, a fast car and a vacation. Then the economies tanked, Russia started taking its terrotories back, and we are left trying to beat China at the game we invited them too. Dumb Dumb Dumb.

I'd have no problems with dropping a 2,000 megatons of friendliness on them.

China publishes FAKE image of Australian soldier beheading Afghan child

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020...stralian-soldier-beheading-afghan-child/

I remember laughing at millenials 10 years for being upset about what people said about them on social media. Now countries are fighting over social media posts. Congratulations millenials you have dumbed us down to your level. What next, world leaders starting a war because someone defriended them on facebook? Good heavens, the wheels of reality have fallen off the wagon. someone invent me a time machine back to the 1980's. At least the cold war made some sort of sense.

All nations have been remiss in not recognizing China for the threat it is. Chinese nationals should have been forbidden to buy real estate offshore. No nation should ever have borrowed money from China. No nation should have allowed corporations to sell out to China at the expense of their own country. Someday, maybe pretty soon, we will have it to deal with. GD

American manufacturing has moved so much offshore that that's almost impossible. If all Chinese imports were stopped, the shelves would be bare in a week. Even if covid results in American companies returning to the US, it'll take years to retool and start making stuff here again.

Why the heck would you want a commie chineese tourist? Screw them.

I didn't care when just cheap goods were made in China. We couldn't produce them economically. The problem is when companies started sending high end production to China, just to earn more profits. It's one thing to see "Made in China" on a $39.95 blister pack rimfire scopes but it's another to see it on a "high end" $800+ scope.

Neither will the U.S.. Promise y'all China doesn't want to wake the sleeping giant. Japan did it once & look how that worked out.

With a Biden and possibly soon to be a Harris administration, China will likely accelerate their plans around the world. It'll be the proverbial "taking candy from a baby".

Japan will be on our side this time, which is a good thing.

Well done cousins...it has not escaped notice that Sky News outed the list of Chinese infiltrators and agents. If the US media had that list it would still be buried.

Panfaced bastards

The china/west relationship was all gravy when it was high stock returns, cheap goods and surrounding your fat kids with toys. Now the lifestyle has become too luxuriant for the system to maintain and we are left stirring up wars in the media to try and get our factories back. Fellas, we invited them to do business, we literally handed it to them, and they outworked us, plain and simple. And this is nothing recent, we were actually losing this battle as far back as 15 years ago. You only started hating china when the media put the idea in your heads 4 years ago...