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I would think they wouldn't inflate the #s to make them look bad on the world stage.
My guess is they are low. Way low.

odds of containing covid in China given its rate of spread here and everywhere else in the world is unlikely, given that they had no idea what hey were dealing with and lockdown measures could have been months behind.

It's interesting, compare the 38K with 21,455 which is the difference between total deaths YTD (79,761) less the threshold for excess deaths (58,306).

The key phrase in that chart is "predicted deaths"

We need to try and be patient, as hard as it is. Trump is walking a fine line between getting schit going again, dealing with the inevitable Democrat blame for every death that occurs from any cause, stupid attacks from the media and the political posturing of every governor. It'll happen soon but it needs to be a managed process. As far as I can tell, he's doing about the best he can at this point in the process.

If they have it. I would question the validity of the tests in the above case, and in all cases. We know China sent us a bunch of faulty test kits.

Not to mention that asymptomatic people can still work. How much chance they have of passing it to others in the products they handle is likely small to non-existant, but I don't know that for sure. There are likely ways to test/alleviate this aspect also.

So, China's numbers are more reliable than the CDC's?

I don't think that COVID-19 will turn out to be that deadly, but it seems odd that it hasn't killed more Chinese, considering their population density.

I think that at least 99.7% of us will live through it, but our standard of living might take a generation to recover.

The problem with being patient is as time goes on the economic destruction gets very real.

We have better data on this and they have not changed the narrative..... hmmm maybe there is an agenda at play here?

The lasting legacy of the boomers hopefully. Save us, phuuck you.

Kingston, you need to apply some common sense and figure these things out for yourself..... people with agendas are playing with all the numbers

You might want to look at that chart a bit more closely. That 21K difference (79k -58K) is for just one week.

Agreed, the question is was it necessary to shut the economy down? or did that serve certain peoples agendas?

Patience? While the world economy implodes? WTF is wrong with people. If this continues it won't matter who is the POTUS, Trump, Biden, Jesus, or Flave, the economy is going to be reminiscent of the Great Depression or worse. If you are telling me we should play political games and ruin our economy so that Trump has a better chance at re-election I don't know what to say to that line of thinking.

I'm quite confident that Trump knows the longer we go the worse things get and he is going as fast as he thinks is possible all things considered.

Is everybody in Italy dead?
Don't hear much on the news about them lately

Correct, the number of deaths expected YTD based on previous years VS. the number of deaths this year (w/COVID-19 contributing)

There are only 21.5K more deaths than would be anticipated. Some of this is due to people not dying in car crashes, etc due to decreased/altered activity patterns.

I'm not sure if reporting delays are factored in or not, but this 21.5K comes from the same data set that your 38K comes from, so comparing the two is perfectly reasonable as they'd both be skewed by the same delays in reporting, no.

Sweden? They must have got the non-deadly strain there too.

Oh fück..

The only thing that makes sense regarding Trumps response in light of better info is he has a grand plan to use the emergency powers he currently has to do some lasting good for our country...
If that isn't the case we are screwed