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DJ , That is one cool rig thanks for the pxs. I had considered a Kimber Montana but my experince with Kimbers has been spotty. I bought one of the early 84M 7mm-08 rifles and it wouldn't feed from the magazine reliably. This rifle went back to Kimber 3 times before they got it right. I recently shot a 84M in 308 that I couldn't get to group better than about 2moa.
Maybe the 8400WSM rifles are better,yours is pretty awesome. I fired one in 270WSM recenly that ran great and grouped less than 1 inch with Federal factory Nosler 150 partitions. Every Kimber I've shot has been a wood and blue version. I wonder if the stainless guns tend to do better with their bedding system than the Kimber wood guns which have been eratic for me.
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Himmelrr, That is also a very cool rig, I have one just like it in 260 Remington. One thing I was considering was a M700 XCR rifle. I have a remington laminated stock that I took off a 300 Ultra Mag. It is one of the green/black BDL style stocks. The resulting rifle would be a little heavier than yours but that's not a bad thing in a 338. Did you bed and change the inletting yourself? it looks like a very nice job.
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I did do it all myself. Thanks for the kind words. I enjoy woodworking and have been doing it since I was about 10. The only issue I had was the "ebony" tip. It is actually hollow plastic. When I took enough material out to keep the barrel free floated, I got down to the hollow part. I filled the hole with the Acraglass bedding though.
The mountain rifle stock seems almost tailor made for me as long as I increase the LOP 1/4". The larger stocks (BDL, CDL) just don't feel right to me. The recoil on mine is very easy to handle but then again the stock fits like a glove. I would not want to go heavier. IIRC correctly based on my fish scale it is 8.75lbs sans a loaded magazine but I haven't weighed it in a couple of years.
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Everyone I have put together shot really well..I have only used Lothar walthar barrels, and they all seem to shoot. My old gun shoots one inch with about everything..It will also put about every load I have tried within 3 inches up or down and 1 inch sideways. That is why its my "old" gun..I will never trade it.
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With a very few exceptions, accuracy is determined by the rifle not the cartridge. If you had three .338's in a row that were bad then you had three bad rifles. The .338 win mag is for all practical purposes just as inherently accurate as a 30-06, 308, 7mm mag, 375 H&H, etc.
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Just follow this link and bid accordingly and your problems will be answered. http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=8021007 I wish I had the funds at the moment to bid. I have a .338 700 S/S BDL that I re-stocked in a Brown Precision ![[Linked Image]](http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid154/p90d6154e695ca40644fe0c07739e4490/f57fd22c.jpg) The rifle has shot MOA or better with 180 & 200 gr BT's, 210 Partitions, 250 gr. Hrndy's. I presently have some 225 gr. Partitons loaded to try. I agree with Dober, I have had less time experimenting with this .338 to find a good load than any other caliber. 99% of the time, the first powder I choose is just fine. It is my own curosity of what another powder would do that drives the experimetation.
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That's a great looking rig, Ron. I could hunt that. (after I chopped the barrel to 22 inches) 
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Don't think for a momenet that that fact hasn't passed my mind a time or two in the last couple of dayz...grins
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Mark,
Went out and bought a postal scale today. The 700 w/ the LSS MTN stock as pictured above weighs 8lbs 7oz - a little less than I thought.
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MGA "http://www.mgarmsinc.com" I have one in a 338WM... it is under 1 MOA. I have had it for years and I love it.
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Mark,
Went out and bought a postal scale today. The 700 w/ the LSS MTN stock as pictured above weighs 8lbs 7oz - a little less than I thought.
RH Thx-so all up with rounds and a sling it is gonna dress out at 9 lbs. Thx Dober
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My son and I both have Ruger MKII .338 winnys and both shoot slightly under 1". His is stainless/laminate and mine blue/wood. We have 7 Rugers between us and all are great shooters. We're using 250 gr. Federal Premiums (Nosler Partitions)
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A larger caliber rifle is harder to shoot accurately than a smaller caliber rifle. Obviously, it can be done, but I bet that the guys shooting good groups with a .338 shoot a lot of rounds downrange every year. The first shot with a .338 is a lot easier than the second. If you aren't putting enough lead/copper downrange each year to be able to ignore recoil, it will make a difference. The silver lining is that ususally, the target of a .338 is a lot bigger and closer than the target of a .223, so it really doesn't have to be as accurate, and neither do you.
BTW, my .338 is a 700 with an Obermeyer barrel in one of Rick's black/silver spiderweb McMillan's done by Randy Gregory. It has a Leuppy 2-8 VXIII, weighs about 8 3/4 loaded and shoots 225 TSX's better than it needs to.
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I have an old FN actioned .338 in a McMillan stock and the last three 3-shot groups were .670, 1.25, and 1.35 at 200 yards. I have been shooting RL19 and the 210 TSX, which is what I'm taking to AK for caribou and moose this fall. My .338-06 (also a 50's FN) was pretty finicky, but shoots under 1MOA with the 210 TSX and Big Game. The .338 WM reputation for accuracy is quite good, if I needed a .338 hard use hunting rifle, I'd get a Ruger Hawkeye, lighten the trigger and put a set of NECG iron sights on for backup.
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Over the last couple of years I have been on a quest to find an accurate 338 win mag. I know they must exist but my luck with them has been rotten. About 2 years ago I bought a Dakota 76 Safari model in 330 Dakota. It's a great rifle with the drop magazine and express sights, it looks and feels like a dangerous game rifle. I discovered the 330 will put 200 grain balistic tips in less than 0.5 inch @ 100 yards. Trouble is it weighs 10 pounds and is a bit much in steep country.
Thus began my search for a good accurate 338 win mag. First I bought a 1990s vintage M70 Super Grade. The best thing I found in this gun was the winchester 200 grain power points. They grouped about 2 inces@ 100 yards. Tried lots of other things but nothing surpassed this one. Then I got the chance to trade in the model 70 on a standard size Dakota76 in 338 win mag. The rifle was just the right size and had lovely wood, but accuracy was the same as the Winchester,two inches or worse.
I sold the rifle and was about to move on to another project when I found a Belgium Browning FN Safari in 338. It shoots just as well as the previous two, 2 moa or worse.
I have rifles in several other calibers that shoot great,but a good 338 has eluded me. Several of the custom makers will only promise 0.5 moa with 30 calber or smaller. What rifle and or loads does anyone recommend for a reasonably light 1moa 338 win mag? I can't help you with the accuracy requirement. I know I'm not consistent. I do shoot the occasional 150 yard group inside two inches with a big bore but know the next group will be back to a sloppy three inches or so. My lightest .338 Win Mag is a Remington Custom KS Mountain Rifle with Leupold VX-III 1.75-6x33 heavy duplex. At 50 yards I can barely see the bullseye behind the crosshairs. It shoots sub-inch groups at 50 yards with plinker loads like Hornady Spire Points with 53 grains of Varget. Total weight is 7 lbs 12 ounces.
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With reloading I get ,75'' with 78gr H4831 with a 225 partition at 2950fps.
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doc,
Have a 338 Rem 700 BDL, the smallest group I ever fired was 7 shots in .585 with Sierra's 215 and 75.5 RL-22. Group looked so good I kept goin' 2 more. EVERTHING else ( 225,250 Noslers, 225 X's,230 FS's 250 Sierra's and Hornady's etc.) have all been under an inch for 3 shots, and they all kick like hell from a bench. Just my $.02 worth.
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I have a Rem 700SS. Barrel length with a muzzle brake is 25.5". This gun balances very well. I tried 4 powders when looking for a hunting load. The groups just got tighter as I used slower powders. The powders were I4350, I4831, H483l and R22. 76 grains of the latter powder shoots very well with everything from 200 to 250 grainers. This is the only .338 I have ever owned so can not say whether my experience is typical or not.
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