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Hey BSA...next time you're tempted to sell that AR, give a little thought to the idea of just rebarreling it. I'll betcha that would bring it into the sub-MOA realm.
Myself, I only have BUIS on our two house guns (my hunting ARs have no BUIS on them). Primary sights on these are Leupold Prismatics with illumination, which I selected because of the etched reticle in order to be free of dependence upon batteries. They work well and I do not expect a failure, but they are attached via QD mounts and can be easily removed. I did not spend a lot of money on the BUIS, just went with Guntech when I saw a sale on them. I think if my vision (and my wife's) was better I might have opted for something a little better, but there's the vision issue as well as the extremely low likelihood of ever being used. One thing I like about them is I can easily fit them with Trijicons, which I may or may not do.
My use for these guns is totally different so my perspective is completely different too, but I think it offers an opportunity to expand the discussion a little. Thanks for the comments RiverRider. As for the barrel, I will leave it on there for a while. Set up in this fashion, it works very well for my needs. I'll see if I get my azz handed to me in the shoot next saturday though. If that happens, I may re-think that. We may have some heavy hitters come from Portland and Vancouver. Hell, If I could get a 6mm ARC barrel exactly like this Noveske barrel, I may consider changing it out. I'd keep it set up exactly the way this one is though: using these Ultradyne BUIS and my Burris AR556 4.5-14x42 combo.. Like I told rost, if I can maintain 1.1-1.2 moa and score 100-8x average, I'd be happy as hell. As it is, this rifle has been shooting just about that good. The other day, I was testing some loads and got a little better accuracy with R-P brass vs. FC brass, so I may just switch over to R-P in this rifle. I have 1500 pcs primed and ready to load, so I'm good to go there. I also burned up about 300 rounds of 223 that day with 2 other rifles, trying to find a good load for that 75gr Hornady BTHP match bullet. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/PaCCJT9.jpg) Sounds like you are ready for NRA high power or NRA mid range prone at 600yds or XTC.. Or NRA- AR tactical in midrange prone.. Our club has the go for its first 600yd shoot of the yr this Tuesday.. looks like I found the sweet spot for the 75gr eld-m all shooting from the 600yd is slowfire ie single feed.. I finally had to clean my barrel when accuracy fell off with 77 tmk. Been about 500 rds since I gave it a good scrub with wipeout. I probably need to scrub mine real well too. Thats cool about them opening your club up for the shoots again. I went back to the old tried and true 73gr ELD-M myself, along with the 69gr SMK. I'll go back to the 77TMK one of these days, and keep working on the 75 Hornady match bullets. I was getting some weird groups with AA2520, but groups were fairly consistent with AR comp. Still haven't fine tuned anything yet though.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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My AR like 23.5gr ARcomp with cci 400 primer and 77 tmk seated at 2.260.. Also try rem 7 1/2 if you have them.. Of course work up to that load as well..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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My AR like 23.5gr ARcomp with cci 400 primer and 77 tmk seated at 2.260.. Also try rem 7 1/2 if you have them.. Of course work up to that load as well.. Thanks J. Good advice. I've been looking for your favorite WSR primer as well as more BR4's (still don't know how I burned through 5,000 in a year and a half?), and those remington 7 1/2 primers, but small rifle primers are hard to find right now. I still have about 5,000 CCI 400's. I also ran across a brick of CCI 41's the other day. I damned near bought those to try out, since they are made for AR's. How do those compare to the CCI 400's and BR 4 primers for accuracy? I saw those at a small shop that gets overlooked. I scored 4 pounds of AR comp there. It had been there for a while, there was a light coat of dust on the top of the containers.. I like scores like that..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Man WSR are hard to find, I’m down to 500 of them.. but looks like cci 400 are my new favorite but I’m running low on them too lol. Those cci 41 are the same primer as the cci 450. Just marketing gimmick.. far as the cci sr br and cci 400 i haven’t seen anything twsl difference I will stick with $36 for a 1k versus $60 for 1K
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Man WSR are hard to find, I’m down to 500 of them.. but looks like cci 400 are my new favorite but I’m running low on them too lol. Those cci 41 are the same primer as the cci 450. Just marketing gimmick.. far as the cci sr br and cci 400 i haven’t seen anything twsl difference I will stick with $36 for a 1k versus $60 for 1K Thanks buddy. It was funny the other day, I was testing some primers and different cases, it turned out I got better accuracy from the CCI 400 and R-P brass, but that is likely because of a slightly different pressure change due to the thickness of the brass. I went to Cabela's and sportsman's yesterday and no luck finding any good primers. Good thing I have a few left. I did, however, pick up a box of 500 69gr SMK's to load up for next saturday..I'll be running my Northtech defense and the iron sight Noveske. One of the guys from Vancouver wants to do a "speed shoot", so I got the timer out to see how quick I could get 10 shots downrange and still maintain a 100 for score and it was right at 11.4-12.6 seconds... He considers 60 seconds a "speed shoot" course of fire. I'm going to suggest we shoot our 10 shots in 15 seconds.. To me that is more along the lines of a fast course of fire.. If you can't keep them all in the 10 ring in 15 seconds or quicker, you might as well take up golf..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Man WSR are hard to find, I’m down to 500 of them.. but looks like cci 400 are my new favorite but I’m running low on them too lol. Those cci 41 are the same primer as the cci 450. Just marketing gimmick.. far as the cci sr br and cci 400 i haven’t seen anything twsl difference I will stick with $36 for a 1k versus $60 for 1K Thanks buddy. It was funny the other day, I was testing some primers and different cases, it turned out I got better accuracy from the CCI 400 and R-P brass, but that is likely because of a slightly different pressure change due to the thickness of the brass. I went to Cabela's and sportsman's yesterday and no luck finding any good primers. Good thing I have a few left. I did, however, pick up a box of 500 69gr SMK's to load up for next saturday..I'll be running my Northtech defense and the iron sight Noveske. One of the guys from Vancouver wants to do a "speed shoot", so I got the timer out to see how quick I could get 10 shots downrange and still maintain a 100 for score and it was right at 11.4-12.6 seconds... He considers 60 seconds a "speed shoot" course of fire. I'm going to suggest we shoot our 10 shots in 15 seconds.. To me that is more along the lines of a fast course of fire.. If you can't keep them all in the 10 ring in 15 seconds or quicker, you might as well take up golf.. Rapid fire in the NRA or CMP rules is pretty fun, you get 60 seconds if you are shooting in the sitting position and 70 if you shoot in the prone. Both are done shooting with a sling and a mag change.. That’s a true “speed shoot” and if using CMP rules you start from standing position with 2rd magazine inserted, bolt closed on empty chamber. NRA rules pretty much the same. Time starts when they say targets up. Same command are giving at reduced yardage matches..
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Man WSR are hard to find, I’m down to 500 of them.. but looks like cci 400 are my new favorite but I’m running low on them too lol. Those cci 41 are the same primer as the cci 450. Just marketing gimmick.. far as the cci sr br and cci 400 i haven’t seen anything twsl difference I will stick with $36 for a 1k versus $60 for 1K Thanks buddy. It was funny the other day, I was testing some primers and different cases, it turned out I got better accuracy from the CCI 400 and R-P brass, but that is likely because of a slightly different pressure change due to the thickness of the brass. I went to Cabela's and sportsman's yesterday and no luck finding any good primers. Good thing I have a few left. I did, however, pick up a box of 500 69gr SMK's to load up for next saturday..I'll be running my Northtech defense and the iron sight Noveske. One of the guys from Vancouver wants to do a "speed shoot", so I got the timer out to see how quick I could get 10 shots downrange and still maintain a 100 for score and it was right at 11.4-12.6 seconds... He considers 60 seconds a "speed shoot" course of fire. I'm going to suggest we shoot our 10 shots in 15 seconds.. To me that is more along the lines of a fast course of fire.. If you can't keep them all in the 10 ring in 15 seconds or quicker, you might as well take up golf.. Rapid fire in the NRA or CMP rules is pretty fun, you get 60 seconds if you are shooting in the sitting position and 70 if you shoot in the prone. Both are done shooting with a sling and a mag change.. That’s a true “speed shoot” and if using CMP rules you start from standing position with 2rd magazine inserted, bolt closed on empty chamber. NRA rules pretty much the same. Time starts when they say targets up. Same command are giving at reduced yardage matches.. Went out today and almost busted MOA's balls with the iron sight Noveske: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/3k9zWGL.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/GDXChmb.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/srtlm5d.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/ZZb0mCW.jpg) The Northtech is ready for Saturday as well: ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/0cisR8h.jpg) That's with the 69gr SMK load the Noveske likes. Averaged 100-9x and .937 moa. It does better with the 73 ELD match load...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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