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I have three, 4x scopes one mounted on a 12 Ga. slug shotgun M8 Leopold, and bolt. 308. Burris 4x. I have a weaver mico trac 4x waiting in the wings just in case. As I go up in caliber, magnification goes down. A very simple rule for me.
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If they had more options for fixed 4x scopes nowadays i would definitely prefer to use those over the variable powers..i like to keep things simple
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I am very fond of 4x scopes. Even with my 73 year old eyes and shaky old body I can shoot a 1" group using a 4x scope. A few months ago I was easily clanging a gong at 200 yards using a rifle with a 4x scope.
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There is much more demand for variable scopes. with a witty variable you can use it on 4 power if you wish but I always use more power than 4
As much as I do like a simple 4x scope, you are right. A new VX2 in 2-7 is a nice trim scope, just as lightweight as a 4x and offers more flexibility, esp at the range.
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There is much more demand for variable scopes. with a witty variable you can use it on 4 power if you wish but I always use more power than 4
As much as I do like a simple 4x scope, you are right. A new VX2 in 2-7 is a nice trim scope, just as lightweight as a 4x and offers more flexibility, esp at the range. I have one of those on a rifle...and I am constantly surprised...but seems like every time I have taken game with it, I look at the scope afterwards and notice I had it turned down to 2 power once again... so "lack of magnification" didn't seem to handicap me much at all...and its not like I am Mr Eagle Eye... I find a 2 x 7 is more useful for my needs than a 3 x 9.
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IMO depends on what you're hunting and where. I like a 3-9x 40 as well as anyone. They're versatile and good for smaller targets at longer ranges in open country but I've shot my share of small game, varmints and deer & antelope out to a little over 300 paces with a 4x. For me it's always been a light weight, trouble free, set it and forget it type scope.
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Got rid of my last one in 1969. Never looked back.
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I have a bunch of 4X scopes on hunting rifles but I'm not a modern hunter. I don't ride an ATV, I often wear wool, I like to try and get under 300 yards, and I like bullets with lead in them. GD Hard to argue with this right here.^^^
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There is much more demand for variable scopes. with a witty variable you can use it on 4 power if you wish but I always use more power than 4
As much as I do like a simple 4x scope, you are right. A new VX2 in 2-7 is a nice trim scope, just as lightweight as a 4x and offers more flexibility, esp at the range. I have one of those on a rifle...and I am constantly surprised...but seems like every time I have taken game with it, I look at the scope afterwards and notice I had it turned down to 2 power once again... so "lack of magnification" didn't seem to handicap me much at all...and its not like I am Mr Eagle Eye... I find a 2 x 7 is more useful for my needs than a 3 x 9. I like low powered variables. The only time I turn them up is at the range for load testing and while trying for internet hero target pics.
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If we were buying them the manufacturers would be producing them. Hunters voting with their wallets.
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If we were buying them the manufacturers would be producing them. Hunters voting with their wallets. There's that logic thing again.
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I still use fixed 3x, 4x and 6x scopes, mostly Leupold M8s. On a Savage 99 F or Husqvarna lightweight bolt an old long tube Leupold 4x28mm seems perfect to me. Anything 200 yds and under is easy money with those setups.
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Vintage Leupold M8 gloss 4X (and 6X’s) are my all time favorite scopes and I have at least a dozen on various rifles. Classic scopes that to my eye look just as good on a pre64 M70 as they do on a Kimber Montana.
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Never had a place in my hunting. Started out with 3x9 scopes and now most are 4x16
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If we were buying them the manufacturers would be producing them. Hunters voting with their wallets. You would think that would be the case. So why did Leupold drop the VX2 2-7x33, probably their bread and butter scope?
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If we were buying them the manufacturers would be producing them. Hunters voting with their wallets. You would think that would be the case. So why did Leupold drop the VX2 2-7x33, probably their bread and butter scope? I believe that most of what is offered, not only in scopes, is based more on "what we want to sell" than on "what the buying public wants".
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Love the fixed power never have to think about it just point and shoot
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Never had a place in my hunting. Started out with 3x9 scopes and now most are 4x16 4X16 is my favorite
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If we were buying them the manufacturers would be producing them. Hunters voting with their wallets. You would think that would be the case. So why did Leupold drop the VX2 2-7x33, probably their bread and butter scope? I highly doubt that was their bread and butter scope.
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I’ve got one on my wife’s deer hunting shotgun. I was sighing it in one day a the range, and this young guy came over and said boy the scope looks like it was blued. I said that’s cause it is. An old Weaver 4power. Still works good!
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