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Have just gotten an 1899 rifle(?) in 25-35.The Savage letter which came with it says it is a carbine with a 20 inch barrel in 25-35 made in 1904. All of that checks out on the gun. What doesn't match is the butt stock with crescent butt plate. All parts have matching serial numbers. I can find no reference to carbine having that stock. Any one have any insights?

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Post a few pics if you can Darrell.
I have a 99C with crescent butt/plate, checked, numbers match, but does not letter. JTC and others here believe it to be factory.
Likely an employee rifle.



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Could be special order, or have been sent back for repair from 1919-1923 when they weren't making carbine buttplates.

Pictures would help us eliminate an alteration by an enterprising gunsmith.

Does it have the saddle ring?


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Could be some previous owner just changed it out to suit his taste. It happens a lot today and I sure it happened to a fair degree in the past too.


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he said all parts have matching #'s


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It has the saddle ring and butt plate/butt have serial no, to match the receiver. No metion in the letter to indicate a return to savage.

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Work orders weren't always logged, but usually were I think. Wouldn't be the first saddle ring carbine we've seen with a different buttplate, but it's in the single digits.

And ANY saddle ring carbine in 25-35 is rare.

Looking forward to pics, if you can do it.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Could be special order, or have been sent back for repair from 1919-1923 when they weren't making carbine buttplates.


Good chance. I have a 1913 1899H 30-30 that has a later straight stock and metal butt plate. Both the butt and plate are numbered to the receiver. When I lettered it, the letter did state that it was returned for unknown work in November 1921; more than likely, this is when the stock was replaced.

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OP, Can we see some pictures? laugh

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I wonder if it has the normal heavy carbine (saddle ring) barrel . 25 - 35. Isn't there a matching mark under the forend wood on the front of the receiver that matches the barrel to the receiver ?

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