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Hmmmmm.....sumbuddy deleted the stretch version post. who'da figgered?

Actually they are pretty close. I did some checking.

Seems the advantage of the PRC over the 6.5-284 is cheaper quality factory ammo, much like what seemed to give the 6.5 CM such a jump on its competition.

The PRC has a mag diameter rim, whereas the 6.5-284 is rebated '06 diameter.

As with the Creed, a big difference seems to be marketing. Factory PRC ammo is hotter than factory 6.5-284 ammo, but with the handloader, pretty close.

I have a great Pre-64 Krieger 26" 6.5-284, not looking for a 6.5 PRC.

At similar velocities, I would think barrel life would be pretty close.

DF

Somebody was me. What I wrote wasn't stated right.

Unlike some Dem politicians, I set out to correct it, not run with fake news...



DF

I guess what I was getting at, in a roundabout way, is the 6.5-06 is THE stretch version.....

the prc and 'by284 are peas in a pod.

Yep, they peas in a pod, performance about equal, all three.

And, even though the shorter ones are a bit long, IMO, for a SA, like 2.9" COAL, they need to be in a LA unless someone has a 3" action.

The 6.5-06, of course, is a LA round.

My 6.5-284 is in a Pre-64, so LA. That gives me plenty of room for whatever bullet I want to use. I'm now shooting 140 VLD's over RL-17 at an honest 3K fps.

DF


Edited to add, that's my 6.5-284 pictured over on the Swaro Z5 thread.

Kind reminds me of that 6.5 caliber by Remington that uses the 308 case....

the one they launched back in '97....

I think I can remember that one...

DF

Yep. I have two of those, also. I use 130-class bullets in my .260s, as the Creeds handle the heavies better. I like them both, but the deer don't!

Guys like drama too. They get emotionally attached to different rounds so cartridge discussions turn into soap operas

The part I find funny about all this is that before the Creedmoor came out, I used to get hassled on forums for being a 260 fan and how it was nothing but a bastardized version of a 6.5 Swede. The CM gets popular and now the 260 is the darling child among many. Oh well, as the world turns...

A friend who is into PRS has a 260 that he uses exclusively for it. Of course it is a custom action that he got the way he wanted it. All his rifles are based on the .308 Win. so if he doesn't have cases for one he can make them from another if necessary.

Yeah, but that one is dead/dying..

Those Norwegian / Swedes saw the light 126 years ago.

I haven't bought into the one gun brigade, but one cartridge has merit. I sure like my light, sporter, and heavy 6.5 creed. Sure keeps loading simple, and it will easily handle anything I ever plan to hunt.

Bone stock M700 youth model with the included with package 3-9x40 Remington scope.............maybe not.

Custom build with Impact Action. Don't have remainder of specs!

I’ve got both, and love both. I don’t see the need to deride one over the other. Kind of like the 30.06 vs 270. Both are great cartridges and I’m gonna keep both and use both.

I am aware and accept that the 6.5 CM is a great evolution for long range hunting!

However, I'm in the dark as to exactly how much better it is over some other hunting cartridges at longer ranges. Can someone who has the equipment run the numbers against wind and trajectory comparisons to say the .270 Win.?

.277 Nosler 140 AB
.496 BC
2950 fps

6.5 Nosler 140 AB
.509 BC
2700 fps

At what distance would the slower 6.5 catch the .277
for bullet drop ?
for wind drift ?

A more meaningful comparison would be to compare it to other short action rounds. Comparing it to long action rounds with their bigger boiler rooms kind of misses the point of it. It's claim to fame is being short enough to magazine feed longer high BC bullets in a short action, not outrunning much bigger cases.

Here's where you can answer your question http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

Thanks for the link Brydan!

Not if you handload, and not if there an endless supply of 308 brass still hanging around....

For long range, I had a long action "Creedmoor" made by re barreling a 30/06 a long time ago, and my logic was laughed at on the campfire...then Hornady took the same idea, and applied it to a short action instead....using a 250 AI case pretty much..

What I put together was essentially a cartridge that came out before the 30/30....necked up a 257 Roberts case to 6.5 mm, put a 28 inch Pac Nor Barrel on a Model 70 action.. seating 142 gr bullets to magazine length, seated to where the bullet was magazine length, so more powder room in the case....the barrel is a heavy magnum contour with a one in 7 twist....

compared over chronographs... it has more MV than a couple of friends 6.5/06, 6.5/06 AI, and 6.5 x 284s that had 24 and 26 inch barrels...

a Swedish Mauser, 1919 version with the long military factory barrel, isn't no slouch either....