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240 Weatherby or 25-06 Rebarrel #14904599 05/23/20
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I’ve got a Kimber Montana In 30-06 I need to rebarrel, looking at these 2 options. Leaning towards the 240 Roy, looking to shoot Barnes bullets in either one. Going to be using it for hunting Texas Hill country deer, AKA not very big smile

If you were going to build a lightweight deer rifle in this caliber range, what would you do? Caliber, Barrel length, twist rate?


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I asked myself a similar question, and my answer was:


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The barrel is a Broughton 5C, 1:9 twist, throated for 103gn Hammer Hunter bullets. Should be good for anything up to mulies. It came back from Rifle, Colorado, just a few days ago, so I haven't shot it yet, but I am pretty sure it is going to shoot great.

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Id do a plain old 6-06, 7.5 twist on a 1 or 2 contour. Inexpensive brass, ability to shoot about any bullet you want and no real detractors I can think of in the Kimber.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Id do a plain old 6-06, 7.5 twist on a 1 or 2 contour. Inexpensive brass, ability to shoot about any bullet you want and no real detractors I can think of in the Kimber.


This^^^^^^^ or a 6.5-06 or 25-06. I just unloaded a stupid accurate Mark V accumark , 240 is too much of a tweaner cartridge for me and not unlike a 25-06.


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Re: 240 Weatherby or 25-06 Rebarrel [Re: Mjduct] #14904662 05/23/20
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.240 Wby,1-10" twist and 26" barrel.


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Re: 240 Weatherby or 25-06 Rebarrel [Re: shinbone] #14904708 05/23/20
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Originally Posted by shinbone
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The barrel is a Broughton 5C, 1:9 twist, throated for 103gn Hammer Hunter bullets. Should be good for anything up to mulies. It came back from Rifle, Colorado, just a few days ago, so I haven't shot it yet, but I am pretty sure it is going to shoot great.



I’m close to that, just thinking maybe 240 Roy, 26” barrel, 1-8” twist and running the 95 gr Barnes LRX copper solid at about 3500 fps. I figure after 200 yards it turns into a .243 smile

What profile barrel is that and did you do anything else to get it down under 6#??

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
.240 Wby,1-10" twist and 26" barrel.


26" on an 84L? 6mm 10-twist hamstring instead of 8"? 240 'Bee instead of 6/6.5-06? Proprietary brass instead of Alpha, Lapua or....?

Wow.

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Originally Posted by Mjduct
What profile barrel is that and did you do anything else to get it down under 6#??


The new barrel has the same contour as the factory barrel, albeit 2" longer. The barrel channel was enlarged a little to ensure the barrel would not contact the forearm, otherwise nothing was done to reduce weight.

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Originally Posted by Montivagant
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
.240 Wby,1-10" twist and 26" barrel.


26" on an 84L? 6mm 10-twist hamstring instead of 8"? 240 'Bee instead of 6/6.5-06? Proprietary brass instead of Alpha, Lapua or....?

Wow.


Factory ammo is a must, I have reloading equipment but not enough time to do it consistently.

I’d buy 5 boxes of the factory 80 gr. TTSX loads and then save the brass for future work when I started to run low (years down the road)

Weatherby gets their brass from Norma, so it’s good stuff for 5-7 reloads. 6-06, 6.5-06 are out of the equation since I can’t get factory ammo.

Initial 100 rounds, plus 4-6 reloads Comfortably (some report up to 10 on Weatherby brass in their magnums) Will probably last the life of the barrel where I will probably rebore it out to a 35 Whelen and chop it to 21” or something. (That was my original plan with this Gun but I have a 338 federal montana that fills that rule nicely already)

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Originally Posted by beretzs
Id do a plain old 6-06, 7.5 twist on a 1 or 2 contour. Inexpensive brass, ability to shoot about any bullet you want and no real detractors I can think of in the Kimber.


What he said. Although I would definitely do a number 2 contour, they get that muzzle up to .60” to balance a bit muzzle heavy.

More capacity than a 240, great brass, ability to throat as per your wishes, pointy 6mm bullets, enough mag length in the Kimber. No down side.

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Originally Posted by RickF
Originally Posted by beretzs
Id do a plain old 6-06, 7.5 twist on a 1 or 2 contour. Inexpensive brass, ability to shoot about any bullet you want and no real detractors I can think of in the Kimber.


What he said. Although I would definitely do a number 2 contour, they get that muzzle up to .60” to balance a bit muzzle heavy.

More capacity than a 240, great brass, ability to throat as per your wishes, pointy 6mm bullets, enough mag length in the Kimber. No down side.

Only downside would be that dies are higher than giraffe pussy for the 6-06 dies.

I have kicked the same thing around and landed on either a 25-06 if I had a standard bolt face or a 257 Roy if I had a mag action.

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Re: 240 Weatherby or 25-06 Rebarrel [Re: Mjduct] #14904967 05/23/20
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If you buy factory standard, absolutely. If you bought 30-06 bushing dies and about a .270” bushing? Still expensive but then you get great dies.


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Just had a 6-06 done on a Kimber. I went with a 8 twist 24” Lilja that dupes the factory contour. Getting 3376fps with 108s and excellent accuracy. Easy button.

Disregard. Factory ammo being a must....Id rather 25-06 than 240.

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If you choose the Weatherby, why not do a fast twist of you ever get the itch to shoot ELD style bullets?


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Factory? I would probably go 8-twist 6.5 x 55. Although it still gets you back to handloading ultimately, then you can play with some long range bullets for fun. And it would work well in the magazine constraints of the 84L.

Otherwise, 25-06 all day.


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Factory? .25/06. My neighbor has slain truckloads of deer, some pretty big and pretty far, with 100gr TTSXs. Twist it a little tighter if you think you might want to go heavier later.

Decide based on what YOU do, or want to do, not on pie in the sky stuff others push. I like 6mms myself, nary a .25 to be found here, but I load nearly every cap I pop.

Then there's the 1-8" or 9" .270..........🤔


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You could play with that new 6.5 RPM by Weatherby too.


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I need to give Shaen a call about converting a 270 Mountain Ascent in a regular Montana stock I have here not being used to 25-06 to discuss my options and timeframe. Thought I’d go with the Lilja factory dupe with heavier taper toward the barrel end, finished at 24” and 8” (unless he has a better suggestion and could get a good barrel faster). Planning to shoot 100 TTSX factory but twisted to be able to handload something different later on.

The rifle will be much more useful to me as a 25-06 as the 270 just sits there doing nothing.

We will see.

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I like both cartridges a lot. The 240 is a not as common but I kinda like it that way. If you can afford to shoot it, do it. The WBY factory ammo I have used has been accurate in multiple rifles. However, another option would be to get a custom load developed from Superior or Copper Creek. I helped a friend get a load from Superior for his 240 WBY and it shoots awesome. After a sample pack or two, you then would have your load which you can continue to order as needed.


I would go with at least a 24" inch tube and 8 or 7.5 twist to shoot heavier, 6mm caliber deer bullets.

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Forced to speculate,I'd prolly keep an eye on freebore,due the tiny mag constraints involved and would surmise no more than .125" there. Mine would keep Lapooey Virgin neck clearance in mind too. Hint.

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The Two Porty Roy cain't hang and the 25-TwatSix is laughable. Pass the Lapooey brass,'22 and 105 Hornie BTHP's. I've seen the .530 BC do some thangs and 3400fps don't suck. Hint.

I tend to dupe Montucky conours,though shorten the shank. Only Shaen would touch it,though I'd start with a bigger blank.(grin)

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