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I hope you are as right on this as you have been with everything else that led to my conversion. The problem I have, though, is the "we" part of "if we win in November". If "we" means the GOP, I have very serious doubts. "We" controlled Congress for a good period during Obama and the first two years of Trump. "We" were afraid of being called racists when "we" tried to curb Obama's agenda. "We" claimed that without a veto-proof majority, there was no way "we" could succeed in opposing Obama and restoring the rule of law. Then, starting in early 2017, "we" had every opportunity to take action against the left and Obama's shadow government and the only thing "we" did was facilitate a debacle of investigations and impeachment.

"We" are incapable of doing the right thing. President Trump, on the other hand, has done everything in his power to right the wrongs and "we" seem to be his worst enemy.

Just like poison ivy, it takes corruption a spell to establish roots. Lobbying is the fertilizer.

I agree and don’t want to be a Debbie Downer, but the flip side of that is that if we lose, I honestly think we’re pretty much done. I think they’re at the point where they’ve already fhkked this country up so bad, that it wouldn’t take much to completely finish what they’ve started. Hell, it may already be at that point to be honest.

People are the key here, and a good number (50%?) of them are just beyond reaching. I honestly don't think they could’ve gotten away doing what they’re doing today, say thirty or forty years ago. And even then things weren’t exactly rosy either. But that’s how far down we’ve gotten on that slippery slope that everyone talks about.

Not being melodramatic. I really, really worry about the future of this country. We’re in a steep dive right now. We have a good pilot at the helm, but I’m not sure even he can pull us out of it because the rest of the crew isn’t helping much. I guess we’ll see. This next election is crucial, but in the end we may just be prolonging the inevitable.

I think some very bad schit is going to have to happen on the scale of what happened in 1861 to self correct. It’s getting there...

Just saw your post. I couldn’t agree more. Goes pretty much right along with what I said above.

I suspect this was a “one off situation” where nobody thought a rich, tv star, pussy grabber would thrash a sure thing bet with Hillary.

At the very least, Trump was the catalyst for us on the Right to finally say Fûck all this Liberal, social improvement, at whatever the cost to American core values.

Trump built a wall in all our minds, that this shît won’t go unchallenged anymore.

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Only voter fraud will will make a democrat win in 2020.

When someone says "we" I don't take that to mean Democrat vs. Republican. I take it to mean populist/constitutionalist vs. globalist/socialist. Politicians of both parties are corrupt. Hopefully enough independents will see what is happening and join in to keep the Senate, regain control of the House and re-elect Donald Trump.

Imagine trying to plow a field with two mules yoked in completely opposite directions. That is the situation we have today with our two political parties.

No one is going to point them both in the same direction so the field ain’t gettin’ plowed.

Less time to do evil. Keeps them from having as much time to organize and get the needed contacts in their organization. The next group of new Reps/Senators don't have the time or experience to do as much evil before they're out, too. May not fix the problem, but reduces it.

Three great post -LIKE ...

Yep more time to figure out who to rub elbows with and who not to rub elbows with .

Call it Devine intervention, luck whatever.
Trumps election was supernatural.

I don't believe the Republicans had anyone who could touch Hillary.
Except Trump.

I also don't think Trump could have beaten any "good" Dem candidate,
Except...Hillary.

His election was as much about the public dislike of her as anything.
My one fear for November is the dislike of Trump.
He truly is dislikeable. I watch him on the tube and often comment
on what an "Arrogant Ass" he is. But he is my Ass!

My mom loves to hate/hates to love him.
But she supports him fully. If she can, there is much hope.

I don't see anything arrogant about him - when you operate in the environment that he's spent his life in there's no room or place for being kissypoo .

Saying he's 'truly dislikeable' is funny - some people don't like strong willed people i guess .

Spot on. I have a nephew (14 y.o.) who claims to be a "New Age" Republican. Pro 2A. Supposedly Pro-Business. But, when I talk details with him, he sounds like "Socialist Light". As I stated previously, even at 14, the indoctrination runs deep...

Disagree.


Who are Trumps enemies?

Pelosi? Schumer? Schiff?

Yes, they are the faces. But, they can be held accountable.
At least in theory.

H ow about,
Mueller, Struzk, Comey....
You never saw them campaign.
No working man voted for them. Who do they really answer to?
They are the nasty, rotten muck under the surface of the swamp.
They run DC.
Ever hear about how politicians might be good, untill they get to DC?
What happens? The bureaucracy happens.

A newly minted legislator hits town.
Naive as hell.
So, he hires staff from his predecessor, or party recommended staff.
Old timers, they run the show.
Tell him what THEY want, how THEY want. Train him!


You really want to empower that.
Feed them new Reps every 4 years, a new Senator every 6-12.
They would eat it up.

No, the answer isnt so easy.
Lobby reforms.
Finance reforms.
Smart, educated Go toes.

Some-dam-how,
an honest, fair press. (Look at covid. Everyone is lying to us.)

Good points as far as they go, Dillonbuck, but who made it possible for the deep staters in the bureaucracy to get so entrenched? Professional politicians, seeing to their own interests and needing faceless bureaucrats to do their dirty work for them.

The deepstaters will always be there.
They have to be. You need the establishment people
to run the agencies. If you term limit the heads, the next in line.
Whoever is long term essential.

Consider NCO's in the military. They are kind of in that position.
(Along with the upper brass)

They hold the knowledge, technology, and traditions that literally keep
the wheels on the machines. They are mission and tradition focused,
so that is all focused in a good way.

But look at foreign militaries.
Who usually organizes and leads the Coup?

poboy, that is a BIG issue here in FL. A lot of people vote by absentee ballot here. I'd been doing that for several years until the truth came out about the Supervisor of Elections in my home county of Broward committing election fraud since 1992. Destroying absentee ballots was a huge part of her fraud. She was never convicted, or for that matter, even punished at all. She's roaming the earth Scott Free, with her pension.

I've been communicating via email with Richard Denapoli, chairman of the Republican Party in our county about absentee voting. He claims it's completely safe here now, as there are electronic means in place that allow you to get on your computer and track your vote.

But, I'm still somewhat skeptical.

The Democrats, the Establishment Republicans and the Deep State all know this.

This is why they cannot and will not allow Donald J Trump a second term. Mail in voting, ballot harvesting, Electoral College nullification, coupled with their existing pool of dead and illegal voters, and general voting fraud , they have a excellent chance of stopping his second term. This is the entire DC apparatus that is plotting his defeat, not just the DNC.

He waited to long, relying on his second term to take down the Deep State might be the biggest mistake he ever made.

This is happening all across America and it ain’t good.


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