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I had a .25-06, traded it some years ago.

I make .240 brass out of new W/W .25-06 cases. New, because fired brass is just too hard to form, new brass hard enough. Some say W/W brass is harder than Wby/Norma, so those W/W primer pockets should last longer.

Forming .240 cases requires a CH4D die and Imperial Die Wax plus some muscle power, even in a big compound press like the Redding Boss II.

I had traded for an HS. Precision SPL in .240. Sold the ugly 42 oz H.S. stock, dropped it in a 26 oz. McM Hunter's Edge. Big difference.

If building from scratch, I'd consider an 8 twist 6-06 over a .240 Wby. Less trouble forming brass and slightly more case capacity. If I was using a SA, vs. a LA, I'd probably go with a 6 CM. Never handled one, but those who have them speak highly of them...

I thought I was out of the .25 cal. business, then traded for a Brux barreled .257R in a LA 700. I really like it; it's a keeper.

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Sorry for derailing the conversation.....

Dirtfarmer; I assume that you would use .25-06 brass for forming the 6mm-06; do you think using .270 brass woud have any issues?

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Originally Posted by GRF
Sorry for derailing the conversation.....

Dirtfarmer; I assume that you would use .25-06 brass for forming the 6mm-06; do you think using .270 brass would have any issues?

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I'd probably use 25-06 brass. The less change, the better, not that .270 wouldn't work. You may have to trim,

I was making .257 Wby brass from 7 RM cases. Sometimes the necks would be a bit thick. I was told that using .264 WM brass may be better than 7 RM for that reason.

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GRF,

I know you didn't ask me, but I owned a 6-06 for awhile and used 25-06 brass exclusively. One pass through a 6-06 FL sizing die and it was ready to go. No trimming required. For experimental purposes only, I tried 270 brass. Necks came out too long and too thick. 25-06 brass is definitely the way to go.

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Originally Posted by wbyfan1
GRF,

I know you didn't ask me, but I owned a 6-06 for awhile and used 25-06 brass exclusively. One pass through a 6-06 FL sizing die and it was ready to go. No trimming required. For experimental purposes only, I tried 270 brass. Necks came out too long and too thick. 25-06 brass is definitely the way to go.

Good info.

What twist?

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Dirtfarmer, Wbyfan1; gentlemen, thank you so very much for your repsonses.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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GRF,

I know you didn't ask me, but I owned a 6-06 for awhile and used 25-06 brass exclusively. One pass through a 6-06 FL sizing die and it was ready to go. No trimming required. For experimental purposes only, I tried 270 brass. Necks came out too long and too thick. 25-06 brass is definitely the way to go.

Good info.

What twist?

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It was an 8 twist, 26 in Brux.

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GRF,

One more thing...If you have a lot's of 270 brass on hand and are thinking of building a 6-06, look at the 243 Catbird instead. It's a 270 Win case simply necked down to a 6mm. It holds a bit more powder, so is a tad hotter than a 6-06. Would be a fun round to shoot. 105 Bergers at 3350+, would be scary good!

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Originally Posted by wbyfan1
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GRF,

I know you didn't ask me, but I owned a 6-06 for awhile and used 25-06 brass exclusively. One pass through a 6-06 FL sizing die and it was ready to go. No trimming required. For experimental purposes only, I tried 270 brass. Necks came out too long and too thick. 25-06 brass is definitely the way to go.

Good info.

What twist?

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DF,

It was an 8 twist, 26 in Brux.

Hard to beat that, twist and barrel maker.

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Originally Posted by wbyfan1
GRF,

One more thing...If you have a lot's of 270 brass on hand and are thinking of building a 6-06, look at the 243 Catbird instead. It's a 270 Win case simply necked down to a 6mm. It's holds a bit more powder, so is a tad hotter than a 6-06. Would be a fun round to shoot. 105 Bergers at 3350+, would be scary good!

Bet loading dies wouldn't be cheap.

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Kenny Jarrett used to carry dies and they were not too bad at his bulk rate. If off the shelf or custom there would be a temporary ouch factor for the Catbird. I think they are in the "G" series for gotcha. The 6-06 is a little better but still up there. Whidden I don't think adds much of a surcharge as long as they have the tooling.


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Had forgotten about Kenny Jarrett pushing that round...

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"Factory ammo is a must"...


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Originally Posted by EdM
"Factory ammo is a must"...

Saw that half way into the thread. Had to go back and look for it.

So, do we recommend expensive .240 Wby ammo or hard to find 25-06 ammo?

And of the two, which factory version will shoot better? I never had to make that decision, although I've had both rifles, still have the .240.

OP needs to reload....

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
So, do we recommend expensive .240 Wby ammo or hard to find 25-06 ammo?



OP does need to reload, no doubt.

In the mean time, MidwayUSA has 26 different 25-06 loads just a mouse-click away.

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Good to know.

I’d probably go 25-06 as it’s more versatile.

But it depends on what the OP already has in his safe, what he’s wanting to use it for.

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Originally Posted by Filaman
I think a .25-06 is a fantastic round. The 6.5 super duper shoot to the next zip code guns have actually been equaled and in some cases surpassed, but market hype keeps 'em spinning their yarn.

7mms and even .270s with custom barrels with 1:8 twists will send 170 grain Hi BC bullets as far as most any 6.5. The .25-06 with an even moderately tight twist will actually shoot a 120 grain bullet as far as most people need to be shooting at game anyway.

But if Berger or Matrix or some of the other custom bullet makers would get on the stick they could sell a lot of bullets. You can right now have yourself a .257 barrel made with a 1:9 or 1:8 twist. I had Krieger make me a 1:9 barrel for my .250 Savage and I shoot 115, 117 and 120 grain bullets in it exclusively.

All is lacking for the .25s to join the ultra long range club is these bullet companies to join the 21st Century and make some 140-150, yes even 160 grain VLD bullets for them. Then "INSTANT SUCCESS STORY!" Run those through a .25-06 or a .257 WBY and you're gonna blow almost if not all 6.5s out of the water.




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Your bone deep Retardation is fhuqking HILARIOUS and your haste to tote STUPIDITY to places it's never been before,is rather impressive...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

REALLY enjoyed your "prowess" with,"specifying" a 9" RPM 250 Salvage,to squirt Nerf Balls at a Retard's pace,though that is your "speed". Hint. LAUGHING!

Swing for the fence and cite which 115,117 and 120gr .257" boresize projectiles,excite you so. Then extrapolate how adding more trajectory correction,more windage correction,more recoil and reduced terminal effects are "good" things in your book and be sure to weigh your crossed-eyes heavily. Hint.

Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps,despite your gross inability to attain a FIRST Fhuqking Clue about anything,other than what a window tastes like. Hint.

Now after the OP has changed more than a few thangs,she should perhaps keep in mind that a Factory 6 Kreedmire,will swat a Factory 25-06 silly. Might just be,because boolits matter and it's copiously frosted over the counter,with offerings that ain't Dog Schit fhuqking Junk. Read that again. Now one more time. Hint.

You Drooling Fhuqtards never disappoint,by simply doing your best and the collective inability to score an inkling,is fhuqking MAGNIFICENT.

Bless your hearts for fhuqking trying though.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Good to know.

I’d probably go 25-06 as it’s more versatile.

But it depends on what the OP already has in his safe, what he’s wanting to use it for.

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Safe has lots of Kimber Montana’s and a few Winchester’s and a Montana 1999 in the following calibers:

.223
.257 Roberts
264 Win mag
308
30-06
300WSM
338 Federal.

So I don’t need a long action 6mm-quarterbore at all but that 30-06 has been sitting on consignment at the local shop for like 2 years and If it won’t sell, I’d like to do something with it...

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