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https://www.stripes.com/news/europe...-15-000-at-german-auction-house-1.631610AUSTIN, Texas – A German auction house sold a U.S. Medal of Honor on Thursday at triple the expected price after Sen. Ted Cruz called for the sale to be stopped. Hermann Historica, an auction house in Munich, Germany, expected to take in about $5,000 for the medal, which was awarded to Army Pvt. Thomas Kelly for his actions during the Spanish-American War. Instead, the medal sold for nearly $15,500, said Bernhard Pacher, the managing director of Hermann Historica, which specializes in military-related items. “People appreciate these things,” Pacher said, adding he doesn’t understand why Cruz finds selling the medals disrespectful. Most buyers spend the money on the items because they hold them in high regard, he said. On Tuesday, Cruz, R-Texas, wrote to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo asking for him to intervene in the sale. The Medal of Honor is the nation’s highest military award and selling military medals awarded by Congress is illegal in the United States. Federal law authorizes fines of up to $100,000 and a year in jail. A day later, Joe Daniels, president and CEO of the National Medal of Honor Museum, joined Cruz in his efforts by writing to a number of U.S. federal government officials to stop the sale.
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The person who owns it wants to sell it.
The person with $15,500 wants to buy it.
It's nobody else's business.
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What Bristoe said............. Why couldn't a legal owner sell it if they wish to do so ? It dates to the Spanish American war so you know the original recipient ain't involved in this. I don't see why it's illegal to sell something like that.
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The sale should have been stopped in my opinion.
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"selling military medals awarded by Congress is illegal in the United States. Federal law authorizes fines of up to $100,000 and a year in jail."
that seems a bit harsh
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The sale should have been stopped in my opinion. What you got against capitalism?
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Wonder who it was that sold it??? Probably some scumball family member who inherited it down the line 2 or 3 times..... Glad at least the 2 krauts got bid driven out of the Auction.
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I am surprised it sold so cheap.
For myself I put it in the same realm as the Victoria Cross and do not agree with either being saleable, no man should be able to buy such unless with blood and action.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I am surprised it sold so cheap.
For myself I put it in the same realm as the Victoria Cross and do not agree with either being saleable, no man should be able to buy such unless with blood and action.
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You either own it or you don't.
If you own it, you have the right to sell it.
Any other opinion is right out of Mao's little red book.
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There was an attempt to sell one at auction near where I live a few years ago. The federal authorities intervened and prevented the sale but did not fine or charge anyone with a crime. The sellers were a couple of women as I recall. I also agree they should not be sold.
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You either own it or you don't.
If you own it, you have the right to sell it.
Any other opinion is right out of Mao's little red book. Selling it reduces it to a trinket instead of a distinction. And a trinket it is not.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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You either own it or you don't.
If you own it, you have the right to sell it.
Any other opinion is right out of Mao's little red book. Selling it reduces it to a trinket instead of a distinction. And a trinket it is not. You can talk all the circles around it you care to. But if somebody owns an object and wants to sell it, they have the right to. It belongs to them just like everything else they own.
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I am surprised it sold so cheap.
For myself I put it in the same realm as the Victoria Cross and do not agree with either being saleable, no man should be able to buy such unless with blood and action.
That's where I stand.
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You either own it or you don't.
If you own it, you have the right to sell it.
Any other opinion is right out of Mao's little red book. then the medal of honor has no value and means nothing but you never served in combat so would never understand Would the German auction house sell a jewish human skull from auschwitz or JFK's blood stained suit from his assassination ?
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Would the German auction house sell a jewish human skull from auschwitz or JFK's blood stained suit from his assassination ?
Having dealt with a few of them and their odd arty ways...probably.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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You either own it or you don't.
If you own it, you have the right to sell it.
Any other opinion is right out of Mao's little red book. then the medal of honor has no value and means nothing but you never served in combat so would never understand Would the German auction house sell a jewish human skull from auschwitz or JFK's blood stained suit from his assassination ? All of that's beside the point. If someone owns it and wants to sell it, it's nobody's business.
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You either own it or you don’t. If you own it, you can assign whatever value you want to it and sell it.
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