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Is Islam still a peaceful religion?
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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[quote=rockinbbar]Yet it is you that proclaims the middle of the road people support Antifa.
You made that up. /quote]
As to burning some random post office, sure, let's deprive a whole class of people of their liberty for the acts of one or a few. Then we'll list the NRA because one member committed a firearms related crime. The libs would be all over that.
Again, the sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander attack. On a rational basis, stating universal principles, distinguish the two cases. Can be done but nobody has yet.
Since you are such a Constitutional scholar, you ought to understand this: Your rights end where mine begin.Think about that.
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Last line says it all. "The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”"
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Yet it is you that proclaims the middle of the road people support Antifa.
You made that up. As to burning some random post office, sure, let's deprive a whole class of people of their liberty for the acts of one or a few. Then we'll list the NRA because one member committed a firearms related crime. The libs would be all over that. Again, the sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander attack. On a rational basis, stating universal principles, distinguish the two cases. Can be done but nobody has yet. The only person here who's talking about depriving a "whole class of people of their liberty" is you. Antifa isn't a whole class of people genius. They are a criminal enterprise. Break the code.
"Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom."
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blah, blah, blah blah blah
It is the responsibility of state and local leaders to ensure that adequate law enforcement resources, including the National Guard where necessary, are deployed on the streets to reestablish law and order.
Indeed. Barr starts his press release with conclusions and then proposes draconian (well, extreme in the normal course) remedy. When that happens in any venue be warned. It's a well known rhetorical device to job someone. And Barr is a tool (not the vulgar meaning). It's Trump's admitted management style. Hire experts to fill in the blanks supporting Trump's objectives. Not a bad strategy so long as you don't start believing your own press.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
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[quote=nighthawk]Your rights end where mine begin.Think about that. You quote poorly. The actual quote is a well known rhetorical device. If parsed it says no more than I have the same rights as you.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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blah, blah, blah blah blah
It is the responsibility of state and local leaders to ensure that adequate law enforcement resources, including the National Guard where necessary, are deployed on the streets to reestablish law and order.
Indeed. Barr starts his press release with conclusions and then proposes draconian (well, extreme in the normal course) remedy. Barr's idea of draconian falls short of mine as regards antifa.
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[quote=rockinbbar]Yet it is you that proclaims the middle of the road people support Antifa.
You made that up. /quote]
As to burning some random post office, sure, let's deprive a whole class of people of their liberty for the acts of one or a few. Then we'll list the NRA because one member committed a firearms related crime. The libs would be all over that.
Again, the sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander attack. On a rational basis, stating universal principles, distinguish the two cases. Can be done but nobody has yet.
Ah see he used the old socratic goose sauce counter.. Brilliant Mr goose sauce!!!!!
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[quote=280shooter
We'll try this one last time. Are they committing acts of terrorism? Depends on how you define it and who defines it. I would say no. Mrely criminals when individual members commit criminal acts. YMMV but that s the side of the case I would choose to argue. Or the Founding Fathers would be legitimately be classified as terrorists ("The Federalist" leading to sedition and civil unrest for one) [/quote] FU.
Life is good live it while you can.
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all Barr did was pass the buck right back to state and local leaders. Fat man drama. Same thing trump did with corona
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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[quote=rockinbbar]Yet it is you that proclaims the middle of the road people support Antifa.
You made that up. /quote]
As to burning some random post office, sure, let's deprive a whole class of people of their liberty for the acts of one or a few. Then we'll list the NRA because one member committed a firearms related crime. The libs would be all over that.
Again, the sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander attack. On a rational basis, stating universal principles, distinguish the two cases. Can be done but nobody has yet.
Since you are such a Constitutional scholar, you ought to understand this: Your rights end where mine begin.Think about that. Aka ..... The 9th amendment. Some just dont get it.....
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The only person here who's talking about depriving a "whole class of people of their liberty" is you. Antifa isn't a whole class of people genius. They are a criminal enterprise. Break the code. Granted "class" is a term of art. Call it a group of people who can be distinguished by one or more characteristics. In this case by their (repugnent) political beliefs. So far as political beliefs go, we protect Communists ( Slokie) so long as they do not commit criminal offenses. When they do we prosecute the particular offender.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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The only person here who's talking about depriving a "whole class of people of their liberty" is you. Antifa isn't a whole class of people genius. They are a criminal enterprise. Break the code. Granted "class" is a term of art. Call it a group of people who can be distinguished by one or more characteristics. In this case by their (repugnent) political beliefs. So far as political beliefs go, we protect Communists ( Slokie) so long as they do not commit criminal offenses. When they do we prosecute the particular offender. and dozens of dozens of well documented violent attacks every year and their social media accounts call for violence, including murder, and terrorism.
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Ah see he used the old socratic goose sauce counter.. Brilliant Mr goose sauce!!!!! Wrong-o. That's simply challenging an argument as being internally inconsistent. Google Socratic Method so next time you don't sound like an idiot.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Should the designation of “Terrorist Organizations” stick and Antifa is placed on the FBI list for targeted intelligence.
Would that also make any black cloaked, hoody wearing, pentagram symbol clad, POS with a duffle bag stuffed full of menacing tools a target for 5.56 or 7.62 round?
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and dozens of dozens of well documented violent attacks every year and their social media accounts call for violence, including murder, and terrorism. Are the perpetrators in jail? If not the documentation must not be so great. If so, what's the problem. They say this, they say that. Trump says he's going to order people whom he believes engaged in theft/burglary (what looting is) to be executed where they stand. A terrorist threat? (Of course he later pulled that back with a, "What I meant was...). Fortunately it is not illgal (ith very rare exception) to shoot your mouth off.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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Trump says he's going to order people whom he believes engaged in theft/burglary (what looting is) to be executed where they stand. A terrorist threat?
Please do show us all where he said those words. We'll wait.
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The pathological lying fool with dementia can't
Trump says he's going to order people whom he believes engaged in theft/burglary (what looting is) to be executed where they stand. A terrorist threat?
Please do show us all where he said those words. We'll wait.
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Guys, please don't feed the drama queen troll..... trying to persuade it is a waste of time.
Please don't feed the trolls!
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Guys, please don't feed the drama queen troll..... trying to persuade it is a waste of time. Funny how he went full retard when Trump declared Antifa a terrorist group, huh? 
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