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Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.


I would give you no more than 25 to 50% truth, per generation.

Shaniquuefa who has six brats by seven different fathers, uses any kind of available dope, is illiterate and has never worked, or seen someone work, simply has nothing to offer any non-governmental employer.

You’d have put those type of people through a military style boot camp to restart their basic morality. And that might just be “difficult” to sell, politically.


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People in this thread talking about 'boo's like they just met their first one yesterday.

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Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.


That's what I thought but it turned out not to be true. When the neighborhood near our plant "changed," we tried to hire more blacks. Good pay, free college tuition, profit sharing, medical--fuggedaboudit. To be sure we got some good blacks, but most of them simply could not comprehend the concept of coming to work at 8:00 five days in a row, or working better to get a raise and get ahead. And nearness to the ghetto simply brought crime.

As for segregation, we had it in the North too--and still do. As someone pointed out, Asians were treated worse than blacks. But you don't see them yowling about cops shooting Asians, or starting Asian race riots. Same basically goes for Hispanics. There is something basic missing in most blacks. True, it's cultural but I suspect the cultural differences stem from their genes, or their lower average IQs. Some can overcome that but most can't. Look at the pathetic state of affairs in black-run countries in Africa.

I agree with the OP. It's time to end affirmative action and preferences. Treat each individual--black or white--as an individual. Right now, in the North, we basically have apartheid. It's gone too far. In my neighborhood we have Asians (Han Chinese and East Indians) and nobody cares. They are not hazardous to your health. Negroes are.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.

How near?
Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.


From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally.
13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family.
We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.



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If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.


Almost all my retail clientele is Mexican or Central American. To a man hard working, decent folk.
I rather enjoy engaging them in conversation and set them up. I’m a pretty “tanned”(part basque) and an immigrant. The most common thing is “I’d love to have a business like this, but I’m brown and I don’t speak English”. When I say I learned English, they can, too, it takes a lot of convincing for them to even start to believe a English is not my first language.

My point is, it IS cultural. Perception IS reality. If people believe they can’t do it, they are right. And as much as it pains me to say it, it does take a village to raise a child. Problem is, it’s Hillary’s village doing the raising.


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.

How near?
Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.


From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally.
13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family.
We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.

Thats right . You can go pretty far off your own sweat and back in this country.


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I have/have had Hispanics working for me that could barely speak English but we're making $50,000/year, owned a home and raised good kids. Entitled lazy pieces of [bleep] are just that.



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We have to move forward.


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
I have/have had Hispanics working for me that could barely speak English


Illegals?

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Poor culture, born from low I.Q. simple......

Encouraged and promoted by leftist.... to serve an agenda of self promotion... parasites


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Poor culture, born from low I.Q. simple......

Encouraged and promoted by leftist.... to serve an agenda of self promotion... parasites



It's a developed sub-culture problem.


Being black has been the center of focus, rather than being American or just being a fahqing human being.


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I have/have had Hispanics working for me that could barely speak English


Illegals?


Nope.

But I'd take a hard working illegal over your average millennial any day.



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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.


I did a pretty large job renovating govt housing a few years back. The head of the housing authority had this theory that if you gave the deadbeats something nice they'd be more apt to take care of it. We put the best of everything in those units. The first one we did, 6 weeks later we came back. They'd kicked out the new tenants, and they'd destroyed the place. Pitbull dug holes through new flooring, doors ripped off high-end cabinets, light fixtures pulled out of the ceiling, doors with fist holes punched through them etc....
Got to charge them another $30,000.00 to return it....again .
Second one, 10 weeks later, they busted a meth lab in one one of the new units. Had to be gutted and returned....again. $30,000.00.
That guys theory made me some good $$ and gave me a lot of laughs.

Opportunity is not what is lacking. America is full of opportunity. Its the easy accessibility to long term social assistance. Quit subsidizing bad behavior, behavior will change.



Hahahahahaahha you dont see where you assumed it was black people? Bwhahahaahahaha that is in the point of the entire thing...

PS - was this in western VA? Please tell it was so I can really laugh... the mean streets of BLACKSburg? Come on man... wake the fug up, you live in gods country...

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you see the same thing happening right now with this $600 kicker on top of unemployment. people don't want to go back to work. you make things too easy for people and lots of them, black or white, will choose the easy way. idle minds are the devils whatever and pretty soon people become dependent of the govt and start to lose the sense of ownership and pride they had working for something. throw in some adversity and a sense of entitlement and pretty soon things go to schit. this is what socialists and the radical left do not understand. people need to work and have skin in the game. and equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. blacks in this country need to look inward, rather than blame whitey for all their problems. 99% of their problems are of their own making.


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The transparency to troll is so evident in nature as to really bring out what makes folks tick. Then again, it's hard to "tick" when one is an empty suit... I will leave you with one profundity; the WHEEL, arguably man's greatest invention was unknown in sub-saharan Africa until introduced by the Portuguese in the 1600s. And the other being the written language, again completely foreign to the same area.


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.

How near?
Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.


I used to think that as well.

Then I joined the service and met a bunch of blacks and Dominicans that never had a driver's license. I thought to myself, "how the fugk do you not have a driver's license."

Most of them don't know what's 10 blocks away. Much less 10 miles.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.

How near?
Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.


From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally.
13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family.
We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.


I'm not making excuses for anybody.

I'm talking about making sustainable changes to the way things are handled. People are paid to live in slums and reservations. If you removed that, and made a concerted effort to provide good paying jobs in the area, you would see crime decline. There would definitely be a tough time frame, but what we are doing today is not sustainable.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by deflave
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.

This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.

Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.

How near?
Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.


I used to think that as well.

Then I joined the service and met a bunch of blacks and Dominicans that never had a driver's license. I thought to myself, "how the fugk do you not have a driver's license."

Most of them don't know what's 10 blocks away. Much less 10 miles.




You just described the non migratory aspect of much of the black race. Within those enclaves are people that are baby mommas that have several or more baby daddys and each baby daddy may have several or more baby mommas.

Run this back to the beginning of The Great Society years some 50+ years ago and within these same non migratory enclaves you have rampant inbreeding that is off of the scale. Literally, innocent victims of inbreeding.

From that you get degraded IQs and extreme behavioral problems. This is what we have from that small group of people and it is manifested on a daily basis. You cannot breed that back in a reverse fashion.


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