As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
Learned behavior proven by the generational poverty that also prevails in the black community. The breakdown of the traditional family is key to a lot of the social issues this country faces. You can thank liberalism.
Two main factors IMO, LBS's "Great Society" was a political scam (LBJ stated the the Negroes will be voting Democrat for the next 200 years.... he used a more derogatory term though) along with aptitude described in The Bell Curve.... No one is born as a blank slate..... some have a better aptitude for athletics and others pick up advanced math as easy falling off a log....
Warren Buffett when asked about disparities in America answered saying “ when I was born I had a 1 in 65,000 chance of being born an American. People shouldn’t waste those odds and fail to take advantage of this “.
Too many social welfare programs. Limit the help one receives and they'll take their responsibility to provide for themselves more seriously. If not, let them die in the streets.
Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist.
Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist.
Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist.
Anyone that thinks it's only a black issue has their eyes closed. It's embarassing to be white anymore. Between the educated liberal millenials who'd gladly give away everything their parents and grandparents worked for because of white guilt, and the 30-45 year old crackers that still live at home playing video games or in a trailer with some white trash POS old lady driving around in a 15 year old dodge caravan with three different colors of sheet metal, popping out kids and smoking meth, the caucasians aren't inspiring much hope either.
As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
There is a lot to that post that bears discussion.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I did a pretty large job renovating govt housing a few years back. The head of the housing authority had this theory that if you gave the deadbeats something nice they'd be more apt to take care of it. We put the best of everything in those units. The first one we did, 6 weeks later we came back. They'd kicked out the new tenants, and they'd destroyed the place. Pitbull dug holes through new flooring, doors ripped off high-end cabinets, light fixtures pulled out of the ceiling, doors with fist holes punched through them etc.... Got to charge them another $30,000.00 to return it....again . Second one, 10 weeks later, they busted a meth lab in one one of the new units. Had to be gutted and returned....again. $30,000.00. That guys theory made me some good $$ and gave me a lot of laughs.
Opportunity is not what is lacking. America is full of opportunity. Its the easy accessibility to long term social assistance. Quit subsidizing bad behavior, behavior will change.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
You belong on the internet doing nothing in the middle of Kentucky.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I did a pretty large job renovating govt housing a few years back. The head of the housing authority had this theory that if you gave the deadbeats something nice they'd be more apt to take care of it. We put the best of everything in those units. The first one we did, 6 weeks later we came back. They'd kicked out the new tenants, and they'd destroyed the place. Pitbull dug holes through new flooring, doors ripped off high-end cabinets, light fixtures pulled out of the ceiling, doors with fist holes punched through them etc.... Got to charge them another $30,000.00 to return it....again . Second one, 10 weeks later, they busted a meth lab in one one of the new units. Had to be gutted and returned....again. $30,000.00. That guys theory made me some good $$ and gave me a lot of laughs.
Opportunity is not what is lacking. America is full of opportunity. Its the easy accessibility to long term social assistance. Quit subsidizing bad behavior, behavior will change.
I think you're comparing people that are given something vs. people that are afforded the opportunity to earn something.
Anyone that thinks it's only a black issue has their eyes closed. It's embarassing to be white anymore. Between the educated liberal millenials who'd gladly give away everything their parents and grandparents worked for because of white guilt, and the 30-45 year old crackers that still live at home playing video games or in a trailer with some white trash POS old lady driving around in a 15 year old dodge caravan with three different colors of sheet metal, popping out kids and smoking meth, the caucasians aren't inspiring much hope either.
Dude,
that's like....
racist?
But yeah, there's some parts of the "White" race I'm certainly not proud of.
As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
Interesting take on things.
But, it's really not "race" as much as it is culture. And the culture has been reinforced by racial politics.
Anyone that thinks it's only a black issue has their eyes closed. It's embarassing to be white anymore. Between the educated liberal millenials who'd gladly give away everything their parents and grandparents worked for because of white guilt, and the 30-45 year old crackers that still live at home playing video games or in a trailer with some white trash POS old lady driving around in a 15 year old dodge caravan with three different colors of sheet metal, popping out kids and smoking meth, the caucasians aren't inspiring much hope either.
Dude,
that's like....
racist?
But yeah, there's some parts of the "White" race I'm certainly not proud of.
Several white males looking at Earth from the space station today.
As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
Interesting take on things.
But, it's really not "race" as much as it is culture. And the culture has been reinforced by racial politics.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
Thanks,
three out of four in my background (Well, really it's Albanian from way way back, like the Ottoman takeover, so almost Greek)
As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
Interesting take on things.
But, it's really not "race" as much as it is culture. And the culture has been reinforced by racial politics.
No,....it's race.
Own up. It'll only hurt for a little while.
Nope,
if it was race you couldn't explain the "anomalies" like the successful "Negroes" raised in non- Black Culture conditions.
More than enough evidence of "White" "Brown" "Yellow" and "Red" folks being raised in similar conditions, with similar cultural mores, acting the same as ghetto folks.
if it was race you couldn't explain the "anomalies" like the successful "Negroes" raised in non- Black Culture conditions.
More than enough evidence of "White" "Brown" "Yellow" and "Red" folks being raised in similar conditions, with similar cultural mores, acting the same as ghetto folks.
A legitimate chance at prosperity is what people want. It underpins all hope. Without the opportunity to prosper, freedom and self-determination have little use. We were on track, really, “like never before”. I was never prouder to be an American—so many people working and happy. We’ve got to pick up the pieces and move forward.
A legitimate chance at prosperity is what people want. It underpins all hope. Without the opportunity to prosper, freedom and self-determination have little use. We were on track, really, “like never before”. I was never prouder to be an American—so many people working and happy. We’ve got to pick up the pieces and move forward.
A free lunch is what most people want. A hard days work is the worst nightmare of at least 25% of all Americans. White and black anyway. Mexican/South American, Eastern Bloc, Asian's and Indians seem to be taking advantage of the opportunity that America/Capitalism offers.
A legitimate chance at prosperity is what people want. It underpins all hope. Without the opportunity to prosper, freedom and self-determination have little use. We were on track, really, “like never before”. I was never prouder to be an American—so many people working and happy. We’ve got to pick up the pieces and move forward.
A free lunch is what most people want. A hard days work is the worst nightmare of at least 25% of all Americans. White and black anyway. Mexican/South American, Eastern Bloc, Asian's and Indians seem to be taking advantage of the opportunity that America/Capitalism offers.
Well,...from what I can see from the Eastern Bloc,...they don't mind working for what they get.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
Put in different terms, this is what I’m talking about.
In my experience, the opportunities exist and are rejected for any number of reasons.
When I was in high school, my uncle owned a small furniture store in the Haight (San Francisco). I worked there after school and on the weekends for $20 a day, delivering furniture to customers who were often in projects (if anyone knows the history of projects in SF, the Pink Palace and Geneva Towers, along with the projects in Hunters' Point). As I was busting my butt hauling bedroom sets up the stairs (elevators were either broken or a sure thing for a robbery) I'd often get harassed by the teen/early 20's guys who lived in the projects. They'd usually flash big wads of money and laugh about the "white boy" doing hard work.
Now delivering furniture in projects is not a "good job opportunity", but it's honest work. And most of the residents of the projects wanted nothing to do with it. They wanted big money, fast and easy.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
Put in different terms, this is what I’m talking about.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I would give you no more than 25 to 50% truth, per generation.
Shaniquuefa who has six brats by seven different fathers, uses any kind of available dope, is illiterate and has never worked, or seen someone work, simply has nothing to offer any non-governmental employer.
You’d have put those type of people through a military style boot camp to restart their basic morality. And that might just be “difficult” to sell, politically.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
That's what I thought but it turned out not to be true. When the neighborhood near our plant "changed," we tried to hire more blacks. Good pay, free college tuition, profit sharing, medical--fuggedaboudit. To be sure we got some good blacks, but most of them simply could not comprehend the concept of coming to work at 8:00 five days in a row, or working better to get a raise and get ahead. And nearness to the ghetto simply brought crime.
As for segregation, we had it in the North too--and still do. As someone pointed out, Asians were treated worse than blacks. But you don't see them yowling about cops shooting Asians, or starting Asian race riots. Same basically goes for Hispanics. There is something basic missing in most blacks. True, it's cultural but I suspect the cultural differences stem from their genes, or their lower average IQs. Some can overcome that but most can't. Look at the pathetic state of affairs in black-run countries in Africa.
I agree with the OP. It's time to end affirmative action and preferences. Treat each individual--black or white--as an individual. Right now, in the North, we basically have apartheid. It's gone too far. In my neighborhood we have Asians (Han Chinese and East Indians) and nobody cares. They are not hazardous to your health. Negroes are.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally. 13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family. We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
Almost all my retail clientele is Mexican or Central American. To a man hard working, decent folk. I rather enjoy engaging them in conversation and set them up. I’m a pretty “tanned”(part basque) and an immigrant. The most common thing is “I’d love to have a business like this, but I’m brown and I don’t speak English”. When I say I learned English, they can, too, it takes a lot of convincing for them to even start to believe a English is not my first language.
My point is, it IS cultural. Perception IS reality. If people believe they can’t do it, they are right. And as much as it pains me to say it, it does take a village to raise a child. Problem is, it’s Hillary’s village doing the raising.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally. 13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family. We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.
Thats right . You can go pretty far off your own sweat and back in this country.
I have/have had Hispanics working for me that could barely speak English but we're making $50,000/year, owned a home and raised good kids. Entitled lazy pieces of [bleep] are just that.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
I did a pretty large job renovating govt housing a few years back. The head of the housing authority had this theory that if you gave the deadbeats something nice they'd be more apt to take care of it. We put the best of everything in those units. The first one we did, 6 weeks later we came back. They'd kicked out the new tenants, and they'd destroyed the place. Pitbull dug holes through new flooring, doors ripped off high-end cabinets, light fixtures pulled out of the ceiling, doors with fist holes punched through them etc.... Got to charge them another $30,000.00 to return it....again . Second one, 10 weeks later, they busted a meth lab in one one of the new units. Had to be gutted and returned....again. $30,000.00. That guys theory made me some good $$ and gave me a lot of laughs.
Opportunity is not what is lacking. America is full of opportunity. Its the easy accessibility to long term social assistance. Quit subsidizing bad behavior, behavior will change.
Hahahahahaahha you dont see where you assumed it was black people? Bwhahahaahahaha that is in the point of the entire thing...
PS - was this in western VA? Please tell it was so I can really laugh... the mean streets of BLACKSburg? Come on man... wake the fug up, you live in gods country...
you see the same thing happening right now with this $600 kicker on top of unemployment. people don't want to go back to work. you make things too easy for people and lots of them, black or white, will choose the easy way. idle minds are the devils whatever and pretty soon people become dependent of the govt and start to lose the sense of ownership and pride they had working for something. throw in some adversity and a sense of entitlement and pretty soon things go to schit. this is what socialists and the radical left do not understand. people need to work and have skin in the game. and equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. blacks in this country need to look inward, rather than blame whitey for all their problems. 99% of their problems are of their own making.
The transparency to troll is so evident in nature as to really bring out what makes folks tick. Then again, it's hard to "tick" when one is an empty suit... I will leave you with one profundity; the WHEEL, arguably man's greatest invention was unknown in sub-saharan Africa until introduced by the Portuguese in the 1600s. And the other being the written language, again completely foreign to the same area.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
I used to think that as well.
Then I joined the service and met a bunch of blacks and Dominicans that never had a driver's license. I thought to myself, "how the fugk do you not have a driver's license."
Most of them don't know what's 10 blocks away. Much less 10 miles.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally. 13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family. We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.
I'm not making excuses for anybody.
I'm talking about making sustainable changes to the way things are handled. People are paid to live in slums and reservations. If you removed that, and made a concerted effort to provide good paying jobs in the area, you would see crime decline. There would definitely be a tough time frame, but what we are doing today is not sustainable.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
I used to think that as well.
Then I joined the service and met a bunch of blacks and Dominicans that never had a driver's license. I thought to myself, "how the fugk do you not have a driver's license."
Most of them don't know what's 10 blocks away. Much less 10 miles.
You just described the non migratory aspect of much of the black race. Within those enclaves are people that are baby mommas that have several or more baby daddys and each baby daddy may have several or more baby mommas.
Run this back to the beginning of The Great Society years some 50+ years ago and within these same non migratory enclaves you have rampant inbreeding that is off of the scale. Literally, innocent victims of inbreeding.
From that you get degraded IQs and extreme behavioral problems. This is what we have from that small group of people and it is manifested on a daily basis. You cannot breed that back in a reverse fashion.
The transparency to troll is so evident in nature as to really bring out what makes folks tick. Then again, it's hard to "tick" when one is an empty suit... I will leave you with one profundity; the WHEEL, arguably man's greatest invention was unknown in sub-saharan Africa until introduced by the Portuguese in the 1600s. And the other being the written language, again completely foreign to the same area.
The genius of the welfare programs and BLM style movements is that both sides get played.
Blacks believe they are persecuted and have no opportunity. Whites see the blacks as the enemy.
This keeps people from working against the real problem, which are the people implementing the programs that maintain slums.
The transparency to troll is so evident in nature as to really bring out what makes folks tick. Then again, it's hard to "tick" when one is an empty suit... I will leave you with one profundity; the WHEEL, arguably man's greatest invention was unknown in sub-saharan Africa until introduced by the Portuguese in the 1600s. And the other being the written language, again completely foreign to the same area.
The genius of the welfare programs and BLM style movements is that both sides get played.
Blacks believe they are persecuted and have no opportunity. Whites see the blacks as the enemy.
This keeps people from working against the real problem, which are the people implementing the programs that maintain slums.
You just described the non migratory aspect of much of the black race. Within those enclaves are people that are baby mommas that have several or more baby daddys and each baby daddy may have several or more baby mommas.
Run this back to the beginning of The Great Society years some 50+ years ago and within these same non migratory enclaves you have rampant inbreeding that is off of the scale. Literally, innocent victims of inbreeding.
From that you get degraded IQs and extreme behavioral problems. This is what we have from that small group of people and it is manifested on a daily basis. You cannot breed that back in a reverse fashion.
It's not about breeding. It's about ending a culture that has been purposefully instilled.
Can it be done overnight? No. But can it be done? Yes.
"N----ers are lazy" might make a cute bumper sticker, but it's not a strategy.
You just described the non migratory aspect of much of the black race. Within those enclaves are people that are baby mommas that have several or more baby daddys and each baby daddy may have several or more baby mommas.
Run this back to the beginning of The Great Society years some 50+ years ago and within these same non migratory enclaves you have rampant inbreeding that is off of the scale. Literally, innocent victims of inbreeding.
From that you get degraded IQs and extreme behavioral problems. This is what we have from that small group of people and it is manifested on a daily basis. You cannot breed that back in a reverse fashion.
It's not about breeding. It's about ending a culture that has been purposefully instilled.
Can it be done overnight? No. But can it be done? Yes.
"N----ers are lazy" might make a cute bumper sticker, but it's not a strategy.
You can’t end a culture 50+ years in the making and that remains ongoing. You can instill all you want and it won’t matter to those poor folks locked into the non migratory situation that they reside in and forever will. That is a lost cause.
That inbreeding IS much of the cause of the existing culture there. You don’t end that.
77% born to single mothers compared to 25% for whites and 15% for Asians may have something to do with it.
That has a whole lot to do with it. I could do a better job of giving money to charity. The one I do donate to on a regular basis is Son of a Saint. They don't throw money at a large problem and hope it will make a difference. They use their money to bring at risk fatherless black kids into a program full of mentors who work very closely with them all the way through their school years.
Guess what the typical social and educational outcomes are?
You just described the non migratory aspect of much of the black race. Within those enclaves are people that are baby mommas that have several or more baby daddys and each baby daddy may have several or more baby mommas.
Run this back to the beginning of The Great Society years some 50+ years ago and within these same non migratory enclaves you have rampant inbreeding that is off of the scale. Literally, innocent victims of inbreeding.
From that you get degraded IQs and extreme behavioral problems. This is what we have from that small group of people and it is manifested on a daily basis. You cannot breed that back in a reverse fashion.
It's not about breeding. It's about ending a culture that has been purposefully instilled.
Can it be done overnight? No. But can it be done? Yes.
"N----ers are lazy" might make a cute bumper sticker, but it's not a strategy.
I am beginning to think you are my brother. If change is going to happen, it has to go down this way. Identify problems and with evidence support that they are problems. Set goals for eliminating those problems. Develop a plan for eliminating or minimizing the problems. Put that plan into action. If anyone thinks change is just going to organically effect itself as a result of what's going on, they are in for a rude awakening.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
Put in different terms, this is what I’m talking about.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
How near? Theres almost always good jobs near the slums around here. They don't have to drive much if any farther than anyone else commuting to work .Also, theres sufficient public transportation if they dont have a car.
From the age of 18 til I was 23 I got up at 3:45 and rode a van 2 1/2 hrs each way into D.C. to work construction. I made approximately four times what I could make locally. 13 hours a day for 8 hours pay. Got married and worked 30hrs a week building myself a house along with a 40 hour work week. After that worked 70 hrs a week working, and paid off that house in less than 8 years. Since then, worked 60 hrs a week to secure a future for my family. We live in THE land of opportunity. Ask any Asian, Arab, Hispanic, Russian, Indian....time to quit making excuses for spoiled, entitled black/white Americans.
I'm not making excuses for anybody.
I'm talking about making sustainable changes to the way things are handled. People are paid to live in slums and reservations. If you removed that, and made a concerted effort to provide good paying jobs in the area, you would see crime decline. There would definitely be a tough time frame, but what we are doing today is not sustainable.
I can’t speak for other parts of the country. I know for a fact that the politicians here do anything possible to bring “good paying jobs to area.” The politicians go as far as giving them multi million dollar tax breaks just so the companies will choose this location to build huge factories . These factories inevitably result in thousands of jobs collectively (Hemlock semiconductor is just one example) . Hell, there is an industrial park (hundreds of acres) that the local government has set aside for nothing but bringing good paying jobs to the area. I’m just not seeing a lack of jobs as the reason . Although, I will agree that something SHOULD change because the current strategy is not working.
I can’t speak for other parts of the country. I know for a fact that the politicians here do anything possible to bring “good paying jobs to area.” The politicians go as far as giving them multi million dollar tax breaks just so the companies will choose this location to build huge factories . These factories inevitably result in thousands of jobs collectively (Hemlock semiconductor is just one example) . Hell, there is an industrial park (hundreds of acres) that the local government has set aside for nothing but bringing good paying jobs to the area. I’m just not seeing a lack of jobs as the reason . Although, I will agree that something SHOULD change because the current strategy is not working.
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
I can’t speak for other parts of the country. I know for a fact that the politicians here do anything possible to bring “good paying jobs to area.” The politicians go as far as giving them multi million dollar tax breaks just so the companies will choose this location to build huge factories . These factories inevitably result in thousands of jobs collectively (Hemlock semiconductor is just one example) . Hell, there is an industrial park (hundreds of acres) that the local government has set aside for nothing but bringing good paying jobs to the area. I’m just not seeing a lack of jobs as the reason . Although, I will agree that something SHOULD change because the current strategy is not working.
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
I can’t speak for other parts of the country. I know for a fact that the politicians here do anything possible to bring “good paying jobs to area.” The politicians go as far as giving them multi million dollar tax breaks just so the companies will choose this location to build huge factories . These factories inevitably result in thousands of jobs collectively (Hemlock semiconductor is just one example) . Hell, there is an industrial park (hundreds of acres) that the local government has set aside for nothing but bringing good paying jobs to the area. I’m just not seeing a lack of jobs as the reason . Although, I will agree that something SHOULD change because the current strategy is not working.
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
We don't have many blacks here, and all the ones I see have jobs and seem to be upstanding citizens. We do have lots of rez's though, and the problems with them seems to be very similar to the problems being discussed here with black people in the US. I've been thinking that this solution is really the only way to fix the problem. Unfortunately I'm equally sure there is no one in power who has the balls to even suggest something like this, much less implement it. The quickest way I've seen to completely destroy a people is to give them a living they didn't earn, and then continue that on for a few generations. Doesn't have to be a good living either,just enough to stay alive. It'll wreck people regardless of color once it becomes the norm to live that way. Reminds me of people who feed stray cats. Starts off with them "helping" one or two, but before long there is a porch full of diseased, scrawny and completely useless animals hanging around waiting for their next feed.
How many of our fire members are in the same socioeconomic stratus they were born into? How many are lower? How many are higher?
I have remained the same. I am a product of the environment I was raised in.
This is what I was just thinking. It’s the nature vs. nurture argument. There are strong arguments for both sides.
I posted this earlier in the thread.
"That has a whole lot to do with it. I could do a better job of giving money to charity. The one I do donate to on a regular basis is Son of a Saint. They don't throw money at a large problem and hope it will make a difference. They use their money to bring at risk fatherless black kids into a program full of mentors who work very closely with them all the way through their school years.
Guess what the typical social and educational outcomes are?"
The genius of the welfare programs and BLM style movements is that both sides get played.
Blacks believe they are persecuted and have no opportunity. Whites see the blacks as the enemy.
This keeps people from working against the real problem, which are the people implementing the programs that maintain slums.
Originally Posted by deflave
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
This is my favorite version of you and where we've always aligned ideologically. I'm glad to see it. It's also the platform Trump should be campaigning on. Thank you for putting words to it.
The genius of the welfare programs and BLM style movements is that both sides get played.
Blacks believe they are persecuted and have no opportunity. Whites see the blacks as the enemy.
This keeps people from working against the real problem, which are the people implementing the programs that maintain slums.
Originally Posted by deflave
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
This is my favorite version of you and where we've always aligned ideologically. I'm glad to see it..
I can’t speak for other parts of the country. I know for a fact that the politicians here do anything possible to bring “good paying jobs to area.” The politicians go as far as giving them multi million dollar tax breaks just so the companies will choose this location to build huge factories . These factories inevitably result in thousands of jobs collectively (Hemlock semiconductor is just one example) . Hell, there is an industrial park (hundreds of acres) that the local government has set aside for nothing but bringing good paying jobs to the area. I’m just not seeing a lack of jobs as the reason . Although, I will agree that something SHOULD change because the current strategy is not working.
The jobs and opportunities are there, the problem is drawing people out of the slums to go get them.
If you live in a ghetto there are a finite number of low paying jobs in the area. It doesn't take an Asian to figure out that if the government is going to pay me just as much to not work, as McDonalds is going to pay me to go to work, that individual isn't going to work.
When you cut off government welfare programs you will see these problems fix themselves. People will have to work. The jobs within walking distance will be snatched up. People will have to spread out. Selling narcotics becomes less lucrative because people don't have any money to sit and smoke all day. They have to go to work. This causes gangs to dry up or at least shrink in size. This is why the free market always works, it self corrects.
Yes there will be a rough transition period and there will be riots in the streets. But when you deviate from the principles of a free market you're going to get that anyway. The only way to right the ship is to get back to the free market.
This is why Irish slums and Italian slums stayed that way for short (relatively) periods of time. They had to go to work. They simply had to in order to survive. That is not the case in the slums of today.
All true, yet there have been a few social changes since the “Irish need not apply” era. One, there are no jobs for people without strong job skills. Textiles and similar entry level jobs just don’t exist in today’s American job market in any quantity, and those that do exist are snapped up by immigrants.
Two, Alishanirona has 7 brats and no man. She doesn’t know who the father is on any of them. There are barely any functional black families. There’s no way she can EVER make enough to pay food, rent, utilities, childcare and health insurance. Let alone college savings or retirement. Mathematically impossible.
So is slowly decreasing their government checks the answer?
I would aim to reduce the federal level programs by X amount over 10 years.
It wouldn't require a Chinaman to tally up the amounts each respective state is receiving at the start of the plan. They get that money on year one.
Each year after that, they know it's going to be reduced by ?.?%. If the states can't do with what the feds are giving them each consecutive year, they're either going to have to raise their constituents taxes at the state level, or find a way to get people into a job.
This would be steering us back to the founding principles of our country. State's rights/responsibilities and a free market.
All true, yet there have been a few social changes since the “Irish need not apply” era. One, there are no jobs for people without strong job skills. Textiles and similar entry level jobs just don’t exist in today’s American job market in any quantity, and those that do exist are snapped up by immigrants.
Yet another masterful stroke by the left.
"Nobody here will do these jobs."
Of course they will. For the exact same reason people from Guatemala do them.
This is my favorite version of you and where we've always aligned ideologically. I'm glad to see it. It's also the platform Trump should be campaigning on. Thank you for putting words to it.
So is slowly decreasing their government checks the answer?
That coupled with opportunities?
Be all for it up here.
Most are on welfare.
Yes!
Opportunities are not lacking around here. It’s up to each State and local government to ensure job opportunities for their constituents. They do a good job of that here in a lot of areas, but not all.
So is slowly decreasing their government checks the answer?
I would aim to reduce the federal level programs by X amount over 10 years.
It wouldn't require a Chinaman to tally up the amounts each respective state is receiving at the start of the plan. They get that money on year one.
Each year after that, they know it's going to be reduced by ?.?%. If the states can't do with what the feds are giving them each consecutive year, they're either going to have to raise their constituents taxes at the state level, or find a way to get people into a job.
This would be steering us back to the founding principles of our country. State's rights/responsibilities and a free market.
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
Pass a bill.
Make your campaign sound better than the opponents.
The start of that would be getting people to understand that "Your type is never going to be successful like white people, so you have to live like this" is in fact, a hate filled view and not compassionate at all.
This is my favorite version of you and where we've always aligned ideologically. I'm glad to see it. It's also the platform Trump should be campaigning on. Thank you for putting words to it.
I have said a few times in recent years that there is an opportunity to bring a few issues together to solve a problem. An able bodied person who is receiving assistance should have to serve on a modern day CCC. In doing so they could learn a trade or a skill and gain job experience that would make them more competitive in the private sector. We have crumbling infrastructure we have joblessness. We have people drawing from society and not giving back. We have people who need to experience the dignity of hard work.
Humans are designed to thrive. It's what we do. It's time the black community ceases to be the principle fuel for an industry of special interests masquerading as a progressive political movement. I still believe that people are born good and equal, with a destiny to be free.
Free money for doing nothing has always been corrosive. It ends up subsidizing the worst behaviors.
Free money destroys the family by making fathers expendable.
Just like people get off of the Rez, people get out of the ghetto all the time, they move out leaving the worst behind. The ones who got out, for the most part, ain't the ones breaking and looting.
Teaching your kid they are a victim because of who they are is the among the worst things you can do to a kid.
Most of us become our parents, if your parents have lived off of free money their whole lives that becomes the way of life you also accept as normal.
These violent thieves are merely displaying to surrounding communities the same behavior they ordinarily project on each other within their communities.
I grew up in England in a strata of society where lots of people were on "the Dole" as a way of life, same problems, and everybody was White.
So is slowly decreasing their government checks the answer?
I would aim to reduce the federal level programs by X amount over 10 years.
It wouldn't require a Chinaman to tally up the amounts each respective state is receiving at the start of the plan. They get that money on year one.
Each year after that, they know it's going to be reduced by ?.?%. If the states can't do with what the feds are giving them each consecutive year, they're either going to have to raise their constituents taxes at the state level, or find a way to get people into a job.
This would be steering us back to the founding principles of our country. State's rights/responsibilities and a free market.
And all the while they’re still kicking out babies to be fed.
I believe that “Workfare “ has been previously tried and I’m certain that the House of Representatives will warm up to this real quick nowadays.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
No worries B, you sit safely at home and post spite, you don't actually DO anything.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
No worries B, you sit safely at home and post spite, you don't actually DO anything.
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
No worries B, you sit safely at home and post spite, you don't actually DO anything.
I do what I want these days,.....because I never let a woman crash me financially then fly the coup.
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
Pass a bill.
Make your campaign sound better than the opponents.
The start of that would be getting people to understand that "Your type is never going to be successful like white people, so you have to live like this" is in fact, a hate filled view and not compassionate at all.
Politicians are scared schit less to approach this. I’m no politician. I’d definitely support a general plan to accomplish this however.
Humans are designed to thrive. It's what we do. It's time the black community ceases to be the principle fuel for an industry of special interests masquerading as a progressive political movement. I still believe that people are born good and equal, with a destiny to be free.
How can you deprive such noble industries like the Prison industry...or the Judicial industry....of much needed grist?
Oh, the Welfare and Entitlement industries as well.
It's a complex problem, therefor, there's no simple solution.
The first problem is that none of these people will go get a job as long as da gubment is paying them to stay home. Ronald Reagan got a lot of people off of welfare and they went back to work. Not sure how to do that, but they could start by making them submit to random drug testing. That would weed out about 80% of them, but then you'd have riots in the streets and they still couldn't get a job because they won't be able to pass a drug test. My attitude is that if I have to be drug tested in order to pay my taxes, they should have to be drug tested in order to receive my tax money. They need to quit paying the baby's mamas for having more kids. They should be required to be on some sort of birth control.
The other problem is that they don't know how to work because they've never done it before. They have no work ethic and they have no skills. These are the least desirable candidates. As much as I want to help people get ahead, I would never hire someone with this sort of resume. Somehow they need to be trained.
Back in the Obama years after the economy tanked, they extended unemployment to 99 weeks (2 years). Whenever I would go to hire a new guy, I'd go through the resumes of applicants. We have a question on our application that asks if they are currently working, and if not, how long have they been out of work. I'd get people who were still working, but wanted to change jobs or make more money. I'd get people that were out of work for a week or two. Then I'd get the guys that said they've been out of work for 2 years. They were at the bottom of the heap and never got the job I was offering. It told me three things. First, that they're a lazy piece of crap, they have no work ethic, and they've been milking the system as long as they could. Second, that since they haven't worked in two years and they're out of practice. Third, that they're stupid and they waited until their unemployment ran out before they started looking for a job. I don't have room for stupid people.
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
Pass a bill.
Make your campaign sound better than the opponents.
The start of that would be getting people to understand that "Your type is never going to be successful like white people, so you have to live like this" is in fact, a hate filled view and not compassionate at all.
Politicians are scared schit less to approach this. I’m no politician. I’d definitely support a general plan to accomplish this however.
I think electing different senators and representatives is a lot more feasible than "send them all back to Africa" and "the war is coming."
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
No worries B, you sit safely at home and post spite, you don't actually DO anything.
I do what I want these days,.....because I never let a woman crash me financially then fly the coup.
I did <"shrug"> , it seemed like the thing to do at the time.
Prob'ly still is, I never really GAS about "things", still don't.
Ain't likely to happen again tho , at least not until I can get to Thailand
Mostly a point of humor for me, if I actually went to Thailand it would be to DO something, either work or travel. Women come and go. I'll meet one or I won't. Can't imagine much more pathetic than being an old guy paying for sex.
Mostly a point of humor for me, if I actually went to Thailand it would be to DO something, either work or travel. Women come and go. I'll meet one or I won't. Can't imagine much more pathetic than being an old guy paying for sex.
Mostly a point of humor for me, if I actually went to Thailand it would be to DO something, either work or travel. Women come and go. I'll meet one or I won't. Can't imagine much more pathetic than being an old guy paying for sex.
Being an old guy paying for sex from chix w/ dix in Thailand??
Humans are designed to thrive. It's what we do. It's time the black community ceases to be the principle fuel for an industry of special interests masquerading as a progressive political movement. I still believe that people are born good and equal, with a destiny to be free.
How can you deprive such noble industries like the Prison industry...or the Judicial industry....of much needed grist?
Oh, the Welfare and Entitlement industries as well.
Central to any argument for a publicly funded mass transit project is getting people to jobs. With the decline of American cities in the last quarter of the 20th Century, there was an opportunity to bring jobs back in town to people. However, as cities were reborn and sought out by boomers and millennials, they became gentrified. Part of that process pushed lower income residents, light and heavy industry, and industrial infrastructure (like freight rail lines) out. Lower skilled jobs were shipped overseas. The resulting service economy produced lots of jobs, but they were spread out and often located in zip codes where workers couldn’t afford to live.
Here we are again with the opportunity to bring jobs to back the US and back to floundering urban areas, will we do it?
I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
You belong in the Peace Corps.
No worries B, you sit safely at home and post spite, you don't actually DO anything.
I do what I want these days,.....because I never let a woman crash me financially then fly the coup.
Isn't your wife the breadwinner in your relationship? I thought you'd posted something along those lines before?
Mostly a point of humor for me, if I actually went to Thailand it would be to DO something, either work or travel. Women come and go. I'll meet one or I won't. Can't imagine much more pathetic than being an old guy paying for sex.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I believe this is the first time I agree with you on something.
It's a complex problem, therefor, there's no simple solution.
Back in the Obama years after the economy tanked, they extended unemployment to 99 weeks (2 years). Whenever I would go to hire a new guy, I'd go through the resumes of applicants. We have a question on our application that asks if they are currently working, and if not, how long have they been out of work. I'd get people who were still working, but wanted to change jobs or make more money. I'd get people that were out of work for a week or two. Then I'd get the guys that said they've been out of work for 2 years. They were at the bottom of the heap and never got the job I was offering. It told me three things. First, that they're a lazy piece of crap, they have no work ethic, and they've been milking the system as long as they could. Second, that since they haven't worked in two years and they're out of practice. Third, that they're stupid and they waited until their unemployment ran out before they started looking for a job. I don't have room for stupid people.
That's exactly the experience I had in my business.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I believe this is the first time I agree with you on something.
(Kinda making me self-check my stance, honestly)
That's hopeful. Maybe you aren't completely retarded?
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
Pass a bill.
Make your campaign sound better than the opponents.
The start of that would be getting people to understand that "Your type is never going to be successful like white people, so you have to live like this" is in fact, a hate filled view and not compassionate at all.
Politicians are scared schit less to approach this. I’m no politician. I’d definitely support a general plan to accomplish this however.
I think electing different senators and representatives is a lot more feasible than "send them all back to Africa" and "the war is coming."
The question then is, are there still enough people who would vote for candidates who supported taking these measures, and are there enough of the right people to vote for? It's what needs to happen, but I'm doubtful at this point that there's enough right minded people left make that happen. In the USA, I think maybe. Up here, no way. Before the Covid, I was a bit more optimistic about my fellow man up here, but upon closer observation she looks pretty bleak.
I grew up in England in a strata of society where lots of people were on "the Dole" as a way of life, same problems, and everybody was White.
I had a similar experience. I recently got back in touch with most of my grade school classmates. One lady used to beat me for high score, academically, mostof the time.
Fast forward 38 years, and she’s been on the public teat all her life, like her parents and grandparents. Blue eyed blonde, in case you are wondering. And that’s in a country with darn decent education, mostly fully paid. My daughter paid about $2,500 tuition per year to get her Master’s, for example.
Opportunity is not the problem. Culture and personal beliefs are the problem.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I believe this is the first time I agree with you on something.
(Kinda making me self-check my stance, honestly)
That's hopeful. Maybe you aren't completely retarded?
It sounds good How do we implement it? Why hasn’t it happened yet?
Pass a bill.
Make your campaign sound better than the opponents.
The start of that would be getting people to understand that "Your type is never going to be successful like white people, so you have to live like this" is in fact, a hate filled view and not compassionate at all.
Politicians are scared schit less to approach this. I’m no politician. I’d definitely support a general plan to accomplish this however.
I think electing different senators and representatives is a lot more feasible than "send them all back to Africa" and "the war is coming."
No doubt. We need a bunch of new reps in office anyhow.
With all due respect, I think you're both smoking crack. I just met an 18 year old Uruguayan that's been in country 2 1/2 years, didn't speak ANY English before then, that is graduating high school this week, speaks fluent English and is attending college in the fall, that's working 60 hrs a week as a small engine mechanic for a relative's business.
If you don't think there's ample opportunity for ANYONE seeking it in this country, your delusional.
I believe this is the first time I agree with you on something.
(Kinda making me self-check my stance, honestly)
That's hopeful. Maybe you aren't completely retarded?
Or, I've been here long enough that I'm catchin' the 'tard. Still too soon to say.
Kingston,...has pics of big dicked 'boo's on his computer,...posts them to forums he participates in, and is offended by people who don't feel compelled to kiss boo ass.
Kingston,...has pics of big dicked 'boo's on his computer,...posts them to forums he participates in, and is offended by people who don't feel compelled to kiss boo ass.
It gets more clear every day.
Send me a pictures of an old naked honky in a tattered blue recliner and I’ll make you famous.
Kingston,...has pics of big dicked 'boo's on his computer,...posts them to forums he participates in, and is offended by people who don't feel compelled to kiss boo ass.
It gets more clear every day.
Send me a pictures of an old naked honky in a tattered blue recliner and I’ll make you famous.
Kingston,...has pics of big dicked 'boo's on his computer,...posts them to forums he participates in, and is offended by people who don't feel compelled to kiss boo ass.
It gets more clear every day.
Send me a pictures of an old naked honky in a tattered blue recliner and I’ll make you famous.
He threw it in the neighbor’s pond yesterday after getting pissed off at the bamboo coming back.
Humans are designed to thrive. It's what we do. It's time the black community ceases to be the principle fuel for an industry of special interests masquerading as a progressive political movement. I still believe that people are born good and equal, with a destiny to be free.
How can you deprive such noble industries like the Prison industry...or the Judicial industry....of much needed grist?
Oh, the Welfare and Entitlement industries as well.
Central to any argument for a publicly funded mass transit project is getting people to jobs. With the decline of American cities in the last quarter of the 20th Century, there was an opportunity to bring jobs back in town to people. However, as cities were reborn and sought out by boomers and millennials, they became gentrified. Part of that process pushed lower income residents, light and heavy industry, and industrial infrastructure (like freight rail lines) out. Lower skilled jobs were shipped overseas. The resulting service economy produced lots of jobs, but they were spread out and often located in zip codes where workers couldn’t afford to live.
Here we are again with the opportunity to bring jobs to back the US and back to floundering urban areas, will we do it?
Can we bring jobs like the ones that make these things back to the good ol' US of A? Any takers on a bet that the whole f'n factory, tooling and machinery, packed up and moved to China and left an empty building.
Honestly, can it be that hard to make a profit stamping out some friggen hooks and eyes from some cheap steel, even given "environmental regulations" ( I like clean air and water, personally), OSHA rules ( I like safe workplaces too), and minimum wages? Would it help if I paid a penny more per hook/eye set? $0.02? which equals another $0.25 per pack over the $10 or so that I paid. I'd do it, to have a doodad factory in/near Watts, Logan Heights, or any other "slum", barrio, or ghetto in the States.
Having come from a family in NYC, where public transportation was a way of life (My mother never did learn to drive) it does make sense that to get folks on their feet they should have a way to get to work relatively quickly, and inexpensively. A factory making doodads near that hood, that pays better than MickeyD's might be of some use?
After we cut back on the checks for sure. Birdie's right, awful lot of folks over there on the Dole, same as here, only skin color is different. Slowly cut the funding, and provide some chances at non-minimum wage jobs and see what happens.
I grew up in England in a strata of society where lots of people were on "the Dole" as a way of life, same problems, and everybody was White.
I had a similar experience. I recently got back in touch with most of my grade school classmates. One lady used to beat me for high score, academically, mostof the time.
Fast forward 38 years, and she’s been on the public teat all her life, like her parents and grandparents. Blue eyed blonde, in case you are wondering. And that’s in a country with darn decent education, mostly fully paid. My daughter paid about $2,500 tuition per year to get her Master’s, for example.
Opportunity is not the problem. Culture and personal beliefs are the problem.
That is really crazy. But, it seems she has done a somewhat logical thing, in a sense found the land of milk and honey and doesn't have to milk the cows or work the hives and she still gets to benefit.
I personally can't do it, but in way understand it. Just like I'd sometimes hope to be independently wealthy, have "advisors" to keep the investments that the ancestors left earning, while I went on safari and scheidt. And had a really nice fishing boat in Kona. And another in Belize or the Bahamas.
Can we bring jobs like the ones that make these things back to the good ol' US of A? Any takers on a bet that the whole f'n factory, tooling and machinery, packed up and moved to China and left an empty building.
Honestly, can it be that hard to make a profit stamping out some friggen hooks and eyes from some cheap steel, even given "environmental regulations" ( I like clean air and water, personally), OSHA rules ( I like safe workplaces too), and minimum wages? . A factory making doodads near that hood, that pays better than MickeyD's might be of some use?
The only problem is that people won't work for what a manufacturing/assembly not much over minimum wage type job will pay. Then, they don't want to show up to work on time, they want to f*** with their cell phone all day, want to gab about the big game all day Monday, etc. etc. One of my relatives had a great job some years back and benefits and such. One day they all decided to strike for more money and the company shut down and moved overseas .The last time I was out that way the building was all but invisible from the high weeds I really can't blame a company for moving overseas I would
Cut out all that BS government aid and they would. Somewere along the line, people got to where they expected enough money starting out in life to own a house, car for everybody, a boat, an ATV, TV in every room, cell phone for all, etc. Hunger would make most work, others steal. Get tough on the ones that steal. Make it not worth it. Problem solved. miles
Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist.
The women can afford to run the husband off and have chiren with different sires.
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