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As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified....
Eliminate qualified immunity and you'll eliminate cops who act like they are above the law.
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77% born to single mothers compared to 25% for whites and 15% for Asians may have something to do with it.
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Learned behavior proven by the generational poverty that also prevails in the black community. The breakdown of the traditional family is key to a lot of the social issues this country faces. You can thank liberalism.
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Two main factors IMO, LBS's "Great Society" was a political scam (LBJ stated the the Negroes will be voting Democrat for the next 200 years.... he used a more derogatory term though) along with aptitude described in The Bell Curve.... No one is born as a blank slate..... some have a better aptitude for athletics and others pick up advanced math as easy falling off a log....
Good question...
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Warren Buffett when asked about disparities in America answered saying “ when I was born I had a 1 in 65,000 chance of being born an American. People shouldn’t waste those odds and fail to take advantage of this “.
Perspective.
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Too many social welfare programs. Limit the help one receives and they'll take their responsibility to provide for themselves more seriously. If not, let them die in the streets.
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f there ever was a time when affirmative action was a good idea it has long since passed.
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As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
. They want Caucasians dead. Don't overthink it.
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Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist.
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Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist. Same Plantation, different owners.
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Everybody knows that the Democrats destroyed most black's work ethic by giving them just enough "free" money and "free" benefits that they don't have to work. Then they destroyed the black family by paying young single women to have babies and the more babies the more money. Is it any wonder that all these people with just enough money to get by and plenty of spare time would turn to crime to supplement their income because they have no job skills? If you try to explain this to any Democrat and you will be called a racist. Yu Dunt unnerstan
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As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
. They want Caucasians dead. Don't overthink it. Because the Democrats and their socialist MSM have brainwashed them to believe the white Devil "is keeping them down" when the opposite is true.
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If zombie movie tech ever becomes real we should dig up LBJ reanimate him so he can be hung....
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As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
. They want Caucasians dead. Don't overthink it. Thrift. Great writing demands an economy of language. Nice. 👍
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They only have to destroy the means of production and then..............uuhhhhh.......yep.
Thats all.
I am MAGA.
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Anyone that thinks it's only a black issue has their eyes closed. It's embarassing to be white anymore. Between the educated liberal millenials who'd gladly give away everything their parents and grandparents worked for because of white guilt, and the 30-45 year old crackers that still live at home playing video games or in a trailer with some white trash POS old lady driving around in a 15 year old dodge caravan with three different colors of sheet metal, popping out kids and smoking meth, the caucasians aren't inspiring much hope either.
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There are lot's of good hard working folks of all colors.
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As a first generation American, I may be missing some nuance here, but I just don't understand what black folks want.
Sure, there was slavery, then institutionalized discrimination and there are still societal issues that seem to afflict black Americans. Why?
Slavery was abolished over 150 years ago. Civil rights laws were enacted to provide recourse for lingering anti-black discrimination. All sorts of very expensive government programs, paid for by white folk, were implemented that gave black Americans all sorts of benefits, from free food to free housing to special education for those who refused to learn the basic elements of being an American (speaking English, learning the three Rs, etc.) and reverse discrimination was legalized to give black Americans yet another way to assimilate and reap the benefits that this amazing country provides.
Still, they insist not enough has been done and even though the science shows that many black American communities choose crime, drugs and violence and create the conditions where cops either have to take action to protect the rest of society from the barbarism of many black American communities or stand back and let society be destroyed.
When I was a kid (1970s, San Francisco), most of the other kids in my school were also first generation Americans...my best friend's parents came from China, another friend's parents were from Samoa, quite a few others were from Mexico. All of us spoke proper English and studied hard and to a one, we ended up with college degrees, good jobs and comfortable lives. The black kids in our class were all from families that had been in the US for 200+ years, yet most couldn't speak proper English and rejected education for crime.
Yeah, slavery sucked, but blacks were hardly the only ones affected by slavery. The Chinese in California basically were slaves, yet they are now some of the highest achieving people in the country. My own family (both sides) were enslaved during WW2 and most of my family was killed, other than the few who made it to the US with no money, speaking no English and having survived what most would say is one of the most horrific atrocities ever.
So the black American community claims that what makes their situation different is that they are still experiencing discrimination and even institutionalized violence.
My take is that the black American community doesn't understand the basic element of chickens and eggs. Something always precedes behavior and while I don't like cops, I don't blame them for making assumptions when they have to quickly assess a situation and take action, including employing violence. I just don't understand what black Americans want...hundreds of thousands of Americans gave their lives to end slavery, trillions of our tax dollars have been spent to give black Americans every opportunity to succeed and special programs that no one else benefits from exist for black Americans.
I'm starting to understand "racism", and for the most part I think it's justified.... There is a lot to that post that bears discussion.
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I have a theory that if you could maintain good job opportunities near any ghetto or slum you would see criminal activity diminish.
This has been proven with even the filthiest of races such as Greeks, Italians, Irish, and Cubans.
Black Americans do have one convincing piece of the “we are different” argument however. Segregation continued for a long, long time in the southern portion of the US.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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