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Apparently some here believe the County medical examiner is trying to whitewash the death to protect the cop. It’s the county that’s trying to convict the cop as a sacrifice so there’s pressure to find a cause of death attributable to the cop not exonerate the cop. the usual politics.
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I though I read somewhere, the cop & the deceased knew each other ?
If true, this leads to other questions which could have significant consequences too.
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Apparently some here believe the County medical examiner is trying to whitewash the death to protect the cop. It’s the county that’s trying to convict the cop as a sacrifice so there’s pressure to find a cause of death attributable to the cop not exonerate the cop. Not me
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I though I read somewhere, the cop & the deceased knew each other ? The cop worked weekend security at a nightclub where the dead guy was a bouncer. Both of them had several years' experience there. It's a huge stretch of the imagination to think they weren't at least acquainted, if not more closely associated. There could be some history there, and possibly some bad blood between them. The Medical Examiner is trying to protect the city against the flood of lawsuits they know is coming, possibly from years of previous misconduct by the dirty cop. He's also going to most likely torpedo the political career of Amy Klobuchar, who refused to file charges against him over complaints of misconduct while she was a prosecutor in Minneapolis. Jerry
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Unless they seat a jury of retards the cop walks free. Haha, ever sit on a jury? There's a ton of retards out there.
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I’ve tried to get on juries 3 times
Always get dismissed.
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I though I read somewhere, the cop & the deceased knew each other ? The cop worked weekend security at a nightclub where the dead guy was a bouncer. Both of them had several years' experience there. It's a huge stretch of the imagination to think they weren't at least acquainted, if not more closely associated. There could be some history there, and possibly some bad blood between them. The Medical Examiner is trying to protect the city against the flood of lawsuits they know is coming, possibly from years of previous misconduct by the dirty cop. He's also going to most likely torpedo the political career of Amy Klobuchar, who refused to file charges against him over complaints of misconduct while she was a prosecutor in Minneapolis. Jerry Does anyone know that the instances of misconduct by the dirty cop were? I heard there were 17 of them. You're right, Amy's done. She probably was told by her bosses to make the charges go away.
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Liberal cities employ dirty cops and Democrat politicians overlook it. That seems to be the collective narrative here.
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Unless they seat a jury of retards the cop walks free. Remember the O. J. Simpson jury?
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It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land Don't forget Fantacy Land Ok, Karen. You got awfully quiet Says Reno 911 Ok , Zorro Just because your B/F was selfish and didn't get you off and now your angry, don't take it out on me You always resort to the same sophomoric scchitt, that’s all that you have when the dealing is done. Let’s get real low: It’s quite apparent that a gang of cops has been banging your old lady, your daughter, your two lesbian sisters, your momma and your bedridden grandmother. Plus buggering you at a traffic stop. Your thoughts? Be nice. PM ribka he has been trying to find someone for his dead buddys wife, your perfect
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That wasn't really an "independent" autopsy................just sayin'.
I kinda think Baden has a vested interest.
MM Please explain how the Hennepin County Medical Examiner is not an independent autopsy Liberal land . Boss said make it a homicide . Perhaps you are capable of explaining for him? I can explain a nearly $300,000 salary plus benefits since 2004. I wouldnt wanna rock that boat too much either. $300k/year is the price to buy your integrity. Interesting.
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Unless they seat a jury of retards the cop walks free. Remember the O. J. Simpson jury? OJ, OJ, OJ. The only thing the OJ trial proves about juries, is that they do not like malfeasance or lies from the PD. But for tainted blood samples, OJ would be serving life without.
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I kind of seriously doubt that either autopsy report will be the deciding factor in a trial.
There is no disputing the video evidence that Floyd complained he could not breathe, that he lost consciousness, that Chauvin continued to use the force that caused Floyd's complaint There are several videos out there. My hearing is bad, but I am pretty sure I heard Floyd utter that he couldn't breath while he was still standing and no officer was applying any kind of pressure that would cause a person to experience difficulty breathing. From the criminal complaint/arrest document for Officer Chauvin: "While standing outside the car,Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe. The defendant went to the the passenger side and tried to get Mr. Floyd into the car from that side and Lane and Kueng assisted." This happened before Floyd was ever put on the ground. Would love to know exactly how much fentanyl Mr. Floyd took and when. Did that happen to be the evidence he swallowed as I read somewhere? Back in the day, fentanyl by itself was utilized as a primary drug for the induction of general anesthesia for major cadiac and other big surgeries where CV "stabilty" was desired. That "stability" however was dependent on airway control and full respiratory support. Otherwise respiratory failure soon occurs and bad things follow... ask Prince! They go rigid as a board as well making ventilation by mask difficult without the aid of muscle relaxants.
High dose narcotics kill readily in a narcotic "naive" patient or person. Would be interesting to know if Floyd was using, just selling, or maybe both! Did he ingest something right before he was arrested? Did the police know what he ingested at the time? What were they waiting for as they "restrained" him? Was medical help called and were they forced to play "Dr." at the scene not knowing all of the facts or having the right supplies and equipment?
The knee to the neck looks bad for sure and certainly could have not helped matters for the reasons mentioned above, BUT there could easily be a lot more that clouds the overall picture in this case. It is certainly not a good time to be a potential "scapegoat" right now in our political/racial climate. Thank you to those willing serve as LEO's and put yourselves in these difficult situations quite frequently anymore. Most people would not/could not do it, are more than happy to be and expect to be protected, and are often the first to cry foul when a mistake has been made by a human being. Not worth dying to get a nice funeral with lots of patrol cars with lights flashing, name on a billboard for awhile, maybe a small marker by highway, and a spouse and kids left behind without a parent, IMHO. When was the ambulance called? My bet is the officers called it during initial contact before Floyd ever passed out, either because they saw he was not right in the head ie drugs, or to cover for him complaining about not breathing when they first brought him to the squad car, before they put him on the ground and restrained him. Ambulance was called around 8:20 maybe 8:21, called in as code 2, and immediately upgraded to a code 3, ambulance arrives at 8:27, still Chauvin has a unresponsive Floyd pinned to the ground, minutes before Lane asked Chauvin if they should roll Floyd on his side and Chauvin says no. Chauvin had dragged Floyd out of the back seat...WHY..... this makes no sense, if they had him in the car.... then WTF.... yeah, likely Floyd is kicking... so what? Drag him out and hold him to the ground until he quits breathing...? Maybe Floyd kicked Chauvin in the nuts in the back of the patrol car, maybe he tells Chauvin his wife gives good head..... who, knows, but certainly appears that Chauvin had a axe to grind with Floyd.....
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“Results released Monday from TWO SEPARATE AUTOPSIES declared the May 25 death of George Floyd at the hands of police to be a HOMICIDE.” - Fox News According to Fox News, the full autopsy report of the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office ‘and’ the independent autopsy done on behalf of Floyd’s family ‘both’ declare the death a homicide. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...d-independent-autopsy-expected-today.ampI missed this in my first skim of the thread. If this is the case, justice is almost certain. Read the disclosures at the bottom of the ME’s report concerning ‘cause of death ‘. He could have just as easily wrote “Accidental “ with the same disclaimers. There’s more than meets the eye with the descriptor, Homicide. It wasn’t Suicide or Natural Causes which leaves Accidental or Homicide. Then read the Disclaimers.
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Chauvin had dragged Floyd out of the back seat...WHY..... this makes no sense, if they had him in the car.... then WTF.... yeah, likely Floyd is kicking... so what? Drag him out and hold him to the ground until he quits breathing...? ... who, knows, but certainly appears that Chauvin had a axe to grind with Floyd.....
Floyd seemed easy enough to handle until Shauvin arrived. Officers had got him out of his car, cuffed him, only one officer walked him to the sidewalk and sat him down, then two walked him to the car across the road with no hassle.
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Chauvin had dragged Floyd out of the back seat...WHY..... this makes no sense, if they had him in the car.... then WTF.... yeah, likely Floyd is kicking... so what? Drag him out and hold him to the ground until he quits breathing...? ... who, knows, but certainly appears that Chauvin had a axe to grind with Floyd.....
Floyd seemed easy enough to handle until Shauvin arrived. Thats a interesting thought.....
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It’s obvious here who lives in academia and hypothetical land Don't forget Fantacy Land Ok, Karen. You got awfully quiet Says Reno 911 Ok , Zorro Just because your B/F was selfish and didn't get you off and now your angry, don't take it out on me You always resort to the same sophomoric scchitt, that’s all that you have when the dealing is done. Let’s get real low: It’s quite apparent that a gang of cops has been banging your old lady, your daughter, your two lesbian sisters, your momma and your bedridden grandmother. Plus buggering you at a traffic stop. Your thoughts? Be nice. PM ribka he has been trying to find someone for his dead buddys wife, your perfect I’d rather talk directly to you. And, you dumb f’kk, it’s “you’re “, not “your “. thow stupphidt. Whatever school you may have attended owes you a refund.
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“Results released Monday from TWO SEPARATE AUTOPSIES declared the May 25 death of George Floyd at the hands of police to be a HOMICIDE.” - Fox News According to Fox News, the full autopsy report of the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office ‘and’ the independent autopsy done on behalf of Floyd’s family ‘both’ declare the death a homicide. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...d-independent-autopsy-expected-today.ampHe could have just as easily wrote “Accidental “ with the same disclaimers. But he didn’t.
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He could have just as easily wrote “Accidental “ with the same disclaimers. But he didn’t. No scchitt !! Did you read the disclaimers on the report ?
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Toot told us all about 'intent to kill' without
actually reading the statutes Shauvin is charged
under... Had he done so prior, he would have known
intent doesn't come into it.
He's like Ikea customers that get told by
customer service :
"When all else fails try reading the instructions"
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