Guns and ammo are in short supply. Many stores have stopped selling both, because of the emergency orders and riots. Don’t have a lot of sympathy for people that have been so blind. I tell concerned folks to lock their doors and call the police. 😏
The first thing I ask is if they are going to vote for Trump or Biden this November. If they laugh at the notion of voting for Trump, I laugh at the notion of helping them with their firearm question.
But, barring that they're not retards, I tell them the truth. Start with a 10/22. Learn to shoot, and keep it handy with at least two 10 round mags. If they want to advance from that, they should. However if you're going to have one gun in the house and one gun to let the whole family learn to use for all around purposes, that's my choice.
It should stay loaded with CCI Mini-Mags.
That makes a lot of sense deflave. The US Army came to a similar conclusion in 1941 and adopted the M1 carbine. The are a lot of similarities between the Ruger 10/22 and the M1 carbine.
I wouldn't want my wife or kids shooting at me with one.
LOL
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Short-barreled 12 gauge pump or SxS would be my recommendation..............either #4 lead or frangible buckshot. Not sure, but I'm thinking Remington offers the frangible stuff as a factory load. I know International Cartridge Corp does.
I would suggest to any Novice ,that is iffy about weapons , a 20ga. short barrel pump loaded with TSS # 6 or #7 -- full choke. Point and shoot even from the hip . Much more practice needed with a handgun
For novices, and for defense of a home or place of business, I recommend a 12 gauge pump if they will shoot a few rounds of clay birds or a 10/22 if not.
Forget the AR15. A 12 gauge is deadly enough at shorter ranges and they won't know how to hit something at longer ranges with a rifle. They might even forget how to load it.
Shot: I recommend #6, not buck. #6 in the face at 50 yards will stop any perp.
Someone posted that a 12 gauge kicks too much. Not so. I shoot at least 100 rounds in less than two hours, at least twice a week.
Handguns: Good only if they need something out and about, and if they have CCW in their state. I recommend a revolver. Semis are complicated.
For novices, and for defense of a home or place of business, I recommend a 12 gauge pump if they will shoot a few rounds of clay birds or a 10/22 if not.
Forget the AR15. A 12 gauge is deadly enough at shorter ranges and they won't know how to hit something at longer ranges with a rifle. They might even forget how to load it.
Shot: I recommend #6, not buck. #6 in the face at 50 yards will stop any perp.
Someone posted that a 12 gauge kicks too much. Not so. I shoot at least 100 rounds in less than two hours, at least twice a week.
Handguns: Good only if they need something out and about, and if they have CCW in their state. I recommend a revolver. Semis are complicated.
Good suggestion on #6 instead of buckshot. #4, #5, or #6 is pretty danged good anywhere inside of 20 yards. At close range distances inside a house, they're practically deadly to hominids.
My step son called up about six weeks ago. Worried about things in general. Wanted a recommendation for his wife and her 14 year old daughter. His wife has limited experience and the 14 year old had zero experience.
Sent him a ruger 10/22 with three extra mags in and told him to get a trs25 red dot. Next up was a ruger lcp in 22 lr. Now, I guess one might try to get,one of those lite rack lcp pistols.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
For someone who's not going to become a gun enthusiast, but wants a good defensive gun around the house, a good pre-82 K-Frame S&W .38 Special with a four or six inch barrel stoked with premium +P ammo. Super simple manual of arms. Maybe have a gunsmith remove the hammer spur, just to make sure they never cock it manually.
[bleep] it TRH don't be recommending good guns to people who reaLLY DON'T WANT A GUN IN THE FIRST PLACE. Tell the to buy Rossi's or Tauruses, no point wasting good Smith's on closet gunowners now. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
These conversations always seem to center on guns and ignore training. A healthy, non drooler, male or female can be taught the fundamentals and functional safety in 4 hours and 200 rounds by a competent instructor. My wife, an antique, and my grandaughter who just turned 20 y/o can both do a sub 3 second Bill drill. My wife's favorite gun is a Beretta CX 4 w/ an Aimpoint Micro but she shoots her G19 pretty well too. A trained person w/ a 10/22 is a lot deadlier than is bubba w/ his shotgun that he does not train with on a regular basis.
YMMV
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
Remington makes a 20 ga 870 Express with a 18" barrel and extended magazine for a total of 6 in the mag, East to shoot and the sound of racking it will scare the crap out of most intruders. ! oz of number 6's coming down the hall is plenty. I've got two and really like them, as does my wife.
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